Show me your clowns!

[neogenix]

Hey!

I've just ordered my clowns (Black Ice Semi Snowflake) and I was wondering who else has unique clowns. I know that Rick has a naked clown, and recently saw a pair of Onyx on their way out, anyone else?

I'm actually more excited for my pair of clowns to come in than I've been for anything in my aquarium yet... Thanks to Gabe for sourcing them!!

http://glassbox-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ORA-Black-Ice-Semi-Snowflake-420x297.jpg

So show em!

[ismvel]

I have a picasso that I was going to try and pair up with one of GC's Onyx, but the Onyx was behaving oddly and I found him yesterday upside down being devoured by snails.

Gorgeous fish though, wonder what they will look like when they come in.

[neogenix]

Gabe has a pair of semi-picasso clowns in stock at the moment, they're also pretty bad-*** (ORA) and may be a good replacement to console you ;)

[neogenix]

Very interesting article, give it a read :

http://coralmagazine.coverleaf.com/coral/20100708#pg65

Doesn't make me love my clowns any less thou ;)

[Mr Cob]

I'm big into clowns and like you they have been my most prized possession....take it all just don't touch my clowns.

My current pair I have had for over a year and they came from GCReef, their first clutch of Onyx Clowns. They are still coloring up with black.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/4965085219_ea8e71d600_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5079529837_f585ea9fc6_z.jpg

[allan]

I got skunks early on but have always wished I'd have held out for the unique looking clowns.

[Big_Pun]

http://184.72.239.143/mu/a6cd0f12-6f71-36d1.jpg

yellow belly sabae back

[Europhyllia]

Oh Chris, that Yellow Belly Saddleback looks very cute. Never heard of them before!

[neogenix]

Oh Chris, that Yellow Belly Saddleback looks very cute. Never heard of them before!

I think what Karin is trying to say is that she is now considering another clown tank, lol

[Europhyllia]

lol

I just love the name, the sweet smile and those great big eyes on the Yellow Belly. But no more clowns for me. Saving up for a bigger seahorse tank -maybe ;)

[neogenix]

lol

I just love the name, the sweet smile and those great big eyes on the Yellow Belly. But no more clowns for me. Saving up for a bigger seahorse tank -maybe ;)

Wouldn't that mean you have a spare tank perfect for clowns? Hehe

[Big_Pun]

lol

I just love the name, the sweet smile and those great big eyes on the Yellow Belly. But no more clowns for me. Saving up for a bigger seahorse tank -maybe ;)

he might need a new home if i get the pair of semi picasso at gabes ;) oh sorry its a yellow belly sabae

[neogenix]

he might need a new home if i get the pair of semi snowflakes at gabes ;)

You mean the semi picassos, as the semi snowflakes are already paid for :p

[Big_Pun]

i fixed it you should wait a min, been researching clowns way too much all names blend

[neogenix]

i fixed it you should wait a min, been researching clowns way too much all names blend

How'm I supposed to know what you're fixing or not. That's of course if Karin doesn't go get the semi picassos at Gabe... :)

[Europhyllia]

I got Gabe on a different mission ;) I think I found my calling (and it's not clowns) but I am looking forward to seeing pics of all your snazzy designer clowns ;)

[aquasport24]

Here is my pair ORA picasso grade A and ORA regular. Still have not hosting anything yet after 8 months.

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[txmike]

I think Karin should go this route a 380 gal seahorse tank.




http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx7/txmike2/MV380cyl1.jpg

[Europhyllia]

would probably be the same price as a pair of ultra grade super snowflake triple Picasso clowns ;)

[neogenix]

Here is my pair ORA picasso grade A and ORA regular. Still have not hosting anything yet after 8 months.

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Have faith, I'm sure they'll randomly start hosting.


I think Karin should go this route a 380 gal seahorse tank.

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx7/txmike2/MV380cyl1.jpg

That doesn't look like a clown :D hehehhe, where are your clowns mike? With your and peppers menagerie I've no doubt that you have a pair of clowns in there?


would probably be the same price as a pair of ultra grade super snowflake triple Picasso clowns ;)

Lol, probably, although my biss clowns arent too bad.

[kkiel02]

I thought the difference was Picassos are percula and Snowflake are occelaris. I remember the first Picasso that thing was amazing! I wish the offspring came out like that. I just have regular Percula so it's not too exciting but used to have black and white occelaris.

Not a big fan of the new platinums or the albinos.

[clownfish]

here's a couple of my pairs im working with, had them for a while, just got in a trio of some but im going to have to sell them cause i dont have no room...lol anyways here's a couple of my breeders!!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/oceancube/picassopair1-1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/oceancube/mypair1-2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/oceancube/onyxsnowpair.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/oceancube/platniumonyxpair.jpg

[clownfish]

I thought the difference was Picassos are percula and Snowflake are occelaris. I remember the first Picasso that thing was amazing! I wish the offspring came out like that. I just have regular Percula so it's not too exciting but used to have black and white occelaris.

Not a big fan of the new platinums or the albinos.
yes picasso's are peculas as snowflakes are occy's, i got my male picasso when he was only 1/2 inch now he's a monster,lol i got my platnium to see what him and a onyx female throw out!! will be interesting!

[ismvel]

here's a couple of my pairs im working with, had them for a while, just got in a trio of some but im going to have to sell them cause i dont have no room...lol anyways here's a couple of my breeders!!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/oceancube/picassopair1-1.jpg


That top one is gorgeous...which one is that, picasso?

[clownfish]

thats a snowcasso!!!

[clownfish]

sorry top one is female picasso, lower one is a male snowcasso!!!

[neogenix]

Cool!! Show us your breeding system!

[clownfish]

sounds good, ill take pics tommorrow cause right now all my lights are out and clowns are sleeping dreaming!! lol

[apedroza]

A few years back I had a friend who used to breed clowns and sell them to Texas Tropical and a shop called Aquarium sales and service. He used to get no stripe and misbar individuals all the time but would cull them or give them to me for my marine science lab,because the shops didn't want them. Funny how they are fetching such high prices for these mutant strain now. Has anyone on the site who breeds clown seen any strange mutations in their broods?? If so Hold on to them they may be the next big thing!!

[fisherman]

Funny how they are fetching such high prices for these mutant strain now. Has anyone on the site who breeds clown seen any strange mutations in their broods?? If so Hold on to them they may be the next big thing!!

As a FYI these are not mutations.They are the product of genetic engineering.Mendel did it almost a century before and many scientist after with D. melanogaster.

As far A.ocellaris being a "snow" and A.percula being a "picasso" is a line in the sand.

[tebstan]

It seems like they started out as natural variations, then were selectively bred to bring out those traits. Not exactly mutation or genetic engineering. I think hobbyists might have the same thing in mind, whichever label they apply. Semantics.

We didn't "genetically engineer" all the different breeds of dogs, but they aren't mutations either. Look at all the varieties of fancy goldfish, then look at the original carp. That's not exactly natural, but I doubt recombinant DNA was ever toyed with in a lab. But, then look at the Glo Fish. Now that's a mutation. (IMO. I'm no scientist. Oh, and I'm supposed to have that little 'Registered' symbol next to the Glo name.)

[neogenix]

It seems like they started out as natural variations, then were selectively bred to bring out those traits. Not exactly mutation or genetic engineering. I think hobbyists might have the same thing in mind, whichever label they apply. Semantics.

We didn't "genetically engineer" all the different breeds of dogs, but they aren't mutations either. Look at all the varieties of fancy goldfish, then look at the original carp. That's not exactly natural, but I doubt recombinant DNA was ever toyed with in a lab. But, then look at the Glo Fish. Now that's a mutation. (IMO. I'm no scientist. Oh, and I'm supposed to have that little 'Registered' symbol next to the Glo name.)

Lol, I don't believe that selective breeding is anything new, and for all intents and purposes could be classed as genetic engineering, but traditionally 'engineering' genetics is though of as inserting specific genes into animals to produce new animals, the glo fish being a perfect example.


sounds good, ill take pics tommorrow cause right now all my lights are out and clowns are sleeping dreaming!! lol

don't forget!


A few years back I had a friend who used to breed clowns and sell them to Texas Tropical and a shop called Aquarium sales and service. He used to get no stripe and misbar individuals all the time but would cull them or give them to me for my marine science lab,because the shops didn't want them. Funny how they are fetching such high prices for these mutant strain now. Has anyone on the site who breeds clown seen any strange mutations in their broods?? If so Hold on to them they may be the next big thing!!

lol, they probably will ;)


As a FYI these are not mutations.They are the product of genetic engineering.Mendel did it almost a century before and many scientist after with D. melanogaster.

As far A.ocellaris being a "snow" and A.percula being a "picasso" is a line in the sand.

Genetic Engineering == Selective Breeding in your mind?

[tebstan]

Lol, I don't believe that selective breeding is anything new, and for all intents and purposes could be classed as genetic engineering, but traditionally 'engineering' genetics is though of as inserting specific genes into animals to produce new animals, the glo fish being a perfect example.

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Genetic Engineering == Selective Breeding in your mind?

That's what I thought too. Genetic engineering just sounds like a very modern term for an old fashioned technique. Mendell didn't have the technology the Glo Fish folks have, so I would call Mendel's technique selective breeding, and the Glo fish thing genetic engineering.

[neogenix]

My new clowns are in, I love them! And they're still juvies :)

http://184.72.239.143/mu/a6cd0e26-3d01-f74d.jpg

[clownfish]

cool, were they expensive???

[justahobby]

Got this picasso clown on back order. Very intricate markings.............












http://www.dontpaniconline.com/media/designcomps/entries_17/large/entr-1289012799_83625.png

[Europhyllia]

federal student loans must have gotten a lot more generous than they used to be Justin!

[neogenix]

cool, were they expensive???

$220


federal student loans must have gotten a lot more generous than they used to be Justin!

Lol!

[alton]

Great pictures guys, my wife wants a pair of grade a picasso's when i can find one cheap. As far as selective breeding fish being a bad thing, think about it we would not have all the different breeds of dogs today if someone would not of selectively bred dogs years ago.

[neogenix]

Great pictures guys, my wife wants a pair of grade a picasso's when i can find one cheap. As far as selective breeding fish being a bad thing, think about it we would not have all the different breeds of dogs today if someone would not of selectively bred dogs years ago.

Awesome! let us know when you're plotting to get them, you should check with gabe what he can do for you?

[apedroza]

As a FYI these are not mutations.They are the product of genetic engineering.Mendel did it almost a century before and many scientist after with D. melanogaster.

As far A.ocellaris being a "snow" and A.percula being a "picasso" is a line in the sand.

I understand that they are now being bred to retain these new characteristics, but they start off as a variation from the natural characteristic phenotype which in essence is a mutation. That variation is then bred into other fish and the trait is carried on from line to line and may soon be expressed very differently in future offspring. This may be a result of hybridization between lines in wild populations. Also the reason many geneticists us fruit flies is because of the frequency of mutations that can be observed in short periods of time.