View Full Version : Foaming your Reef tank by Mr Cob
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:38 AM
The tank.... (complete build thread HERE (http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?60706-85g-shallow-wide-FRAG-display-tank-build....))
DSA 85g RR 48" x 24" x 17" frag tank with a peninsula overflow: Plan is to foam the back glass and overflow along with parts of the sides and bottom. The goal is to turn a frag tank into a "frag display" tank.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1337/4730594360_e65c529e8e_b.jpg
http://www.maast.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8776&d=1278808450
Frag racks in place and ready for some foam to be applied to the bottom to keep them in place when the tank is put on it's back for foaming:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4848120051_a75c43198c_z.jpg
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:40 AM
Materials: (pics compliments of Jesse)
Foam...be sure to wear gloves... (Lowes and Home Depot sell this)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05282.jpg
Silicone... (Lowes and Home Depot)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05283.jpg
A few pieces of rock and rubble to add into the foam...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05284.jpg
Some sand/crushed coral to add onto the foam after applying.... (this really helps the coraline algae to take off because coraline requires a porous surface to attatch to, aragonite works best IMO)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05286.jpg
PVC tubes... the cardboard inside each was a bad call and was difficult to remove as the foam was setting. So I removed the cardboard and decided to add the tubes after the foam started to dry. (I add these as an easy way for mounting corals)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05285.jpg
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:47 AM
Tank on its back and ready for jam session...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05281.jpg
Apply silicone first (used to keep foam attached to glass and overflow longterm)
my son Zion helping....
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05290.jpg
Spread silicone around...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05291.jpg
Start foaming...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05292.jpg
Add a rock and foam around it...this one will act as a little ledge..be sure to distress the foam by moving it around with a stick and popping all the perfect little bubbles...distressing the foam as it rises three or four different times over the course of an hour will give you the most realistic look...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05295.jpg
Example of foam NOT distressed...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05322.jpg
Add sand and move foam around again with hands or a stick...make sure you have gloves on... you are trying to create a porous effect.
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05324.jpg
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:48 AM
Add some tubes and foam over them...be sure to keep distressing the foam and keep poking a stick through the tubes to keep the foam from covering them up...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05304.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05307.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05309.jpg
Add sand over the tubes once you foam them again...
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05319.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05325.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/DSC05330.jpg
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:49 AM
A couple of vids... (compliments of Jesse)
Foaming:
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/th_MOV05293.jpg (http://s946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/?action=view¤t=MOV05293.mp4)
Distressing: (the cardboard in the tubes did not work...the tubes should be added without the cardboard inside them as the foam is hardening and then foam over them lightly)
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/th_MOV05296.jpg (http://s946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/Jesserettele/foam%20back%20ground%20aquascaping/?action=view¤t=MOV05296.mp4)
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:51 AM
Here's the finished background upright.
I still need to foam the sides and some more on the bottom,
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4875394119_f577d210ec_z.jpg
Closeup of the ledge...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4875401885_d882d50de3_z.jpg
Closeup of tubes (they all have an open hole on both the top and bottom to prevent detritis build-up)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4876012950_4844f17720_z.jpg
Tried getting a decent shot straight on...kind of difficult with my phone.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4877602412_77b490246a_z.jpg
Mr Cob
Tue, 10th Aug 2010, 10:53 AM
Additional tips and info....
Something to note that he mentioned yesterday and I don't see in here:
This stuff starts to harden fairly quickly, so if you are doing a decent size tank, work in sections, and make sure you keep an eye on it as you continue, this stuff continued to rise for over an hour after initial application.
I let it cure for 5-7 days before I let water touch it....but I have seen people only wait 48hours. It's inert so it does not soak in water or release any toxins. It does nothing for or against a cycle. I do rinse it, but not purposely...when I do a water test it gets rinsed. No need though because it's inert.
Foam is not permanent. It can be removed in the same fashion as removing silicone seems on a tank. Of course it may be difficult and tedious, but it is not permanent. I prefer to foam directly to a tank versus creating mobile structures with eggcrate. I prefer this method because it removes any chance of dead spots and detritus build-up that you might see from a structure not fitting flush against your tank.
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