View Full Version : Lost a bunch of chalices ... :(
dipan
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 10:05 AM
Never ceases to amaze me. I'm always looking for a quick fix. That product that does what it says and improves a specific problem in the tank. In this case, I used some red slime remover product that doesn't require removal of carbon, skimming, etc. It claimed to be a very mild kinda thing, biological action and such stuff.
I should have learned from my past treatment of my tank with Maroxy (lost a lot of SPS frags). This time, with the red slime stuff (forgot what it's called specifically), almost all my growing chalice frags got nuked basically overnight. Nothing but skeletons left. This includes a 6-7 head bubblegum monster frag I got as 2 eyes from Jeremy. Interestingly, there are a couple chalices that seemed immune to the stuff.
It's not so much the money, though. I just feel really bad that I killed them. Someday I will be a good husband ...
On the bright side, there is no more red slime :(
alton
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 10:28 AM
This was not Blue Vet or Chemi Clean was it? I have used both in the past with no issues, ( I do not have Chalices) but I thought with those two you could not use carbon?
dipan
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 10:48 AM
I found the product at marinedepot (I bought it locally) with the following description. Wish I had read the reviews before using ...
http://www.marinedepot.com/Ultralife_Red_Slime_Remover_Red_Slime_Cyanobacteri a_Remover_Medications-Ultralife-UL1311-FIMERM-4-vi.html
UltraLife Red Slime Remover
UltraLife Red Slime Remover is a revolutionary time tested product, that will effectively and safely remove Red Slime quickly from all Coral and Invertebrates. UltraLife RSR contains natural cellular matter, select biological accelerators and special supplements proven effective in removing Red Slime from Corals and Inverebrates and is Safe for reef tanks, corals, invertebrates, desirable macro-algae, nitrifying bacteria and fish.
UltraLife RSR will accelerate the solubilization and biological digestion of organic solids. In the process, the oxygen uptake rate in your aquarium will increase as a result of this increased biological activity. It is very important that your aquarium is able to support this increased oxygen demand along with your aquatic life`s need for oxygen. Therefore we recommend increasing your O2 levels by the addition of airstones prior to and during treatment.
For best results, DO NOT turn off UV Sterilizer or Ozonizer. Continuation of Protein Skimming is recommended but may require adjustment.
Due to Increased biological digestion of organic solids we recommend increasing your O2 levels by the addition of airstones prior to and during treatment.
No need for Water changes or Removal of Carbon Filtration.
Safe for reef tanks, corals, invertebrates, desirable macro-algae, nitrifying bacteria and fish.
Europhyllia
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 11:48 AM
Sorry :(
rpc
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 12:24 PM
Sorry for the loss.
I actually crashed my tank with Red Slime Remover too. Lost 80% of my SPS (prob 12 med sized colonies). It was a couple of years ago after Hurricane Ike ripped through Houston. My power was out for a day and my tank survived just fine. About a week later I decided to try to fix my minor red slime problem the lazy way (with chemicals). I had a 90g tank (110g total system) and used a dosage for 75g of Slime Remover. Within 3 days most of my sps had shed their tissue.
some guys suggested that the dissolved oxygen content may have already been low from the power outage and the chemicals added somehow starved the corals. I have no idea what happened, but I know I will never use the stuff again nor would I think to recommend it to people.
richard
Mr Cob
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 12:41 PM
As Richard mentioned...it's seems as though the lazy way of fixing a problem doesn't even address the issue that caused the problem. I think that is where we should all start first. Find the problem and correct it...you can't erase it. It will just show up again.
Sorry for your loss. I take a natural approach to everything....unfortunately that can seriously test my patience but I can avoid crashes and large amounts of loss at once. I've been at battle with neon green slime for some time now. I finally have it under control but it's not gone yet....hoping I can possibly choke it out by increasing my macro with a larger sump/refugium that I plan to add soon.
alton
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 12:47 PM
The reviews for this product where different from what we are use to? Normally some say it works, some say no. Here it either worked or it kills everything in your tank including fish! Thanks for the post and warning.
dipan
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 02:16 PM
The reviews for this product where different from what we are use to? Normally some say it works, some say no. Here it either worked or it kills everything in your tank including fish! Thanks for the post and warning.
I wouldn't have used it if it killed everything in some people's tanks...
BIGBIRD123
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 05:58 PM
We used a Red slime remover and it worked great. We recommended it to Sherri and it nuked her tank. It never ceases to amaze me how things in this hobby work for some and not others...I am very sorry for your loses...
stoneroller
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 08:12 PM
Some tanks may be more stable/buffered thus more resilient to changes caused by a chemical addition.
saabtech
Thu, 15th Jul 2010, 09:52 PM
boogers! that stinks!
rpc
Fri, 16th Jul 2010, 07:48 AM
Some tanks may be more stable/buffered thus more resilient to changes caused by a chemical addition.
This is true but since there is no measurable way for me to know if its my tank is stable enough to use a certain chemical, I'm staying away from them all.
Just like some of the other guys, I had read a couple of positive reviews for Red Slime Remover so I gave it a shot.
Lesson learned the hard way.
ErikH
Wed, 21st Jul 2010, 05:51 PM
I still stand by Red Slime Control. I have chalices, SPS and LPS. I have never seen any bad things occur from the use of it. I also don't water change after I use it. I do turn off my skimmer and only use the product for 24 hours. Then I drop the water level in my sump and let my skimmer wet skim it out. This method has never failed me. I think the key is to not leave it in your system for 3 days like it says to. Then I raise my water level back up with the same water I removed. Sorry for your losses, I hate losing anything!
ShAgMaN
Sun, 25th Jul 2010, 05:05 PM
My experience with chemi-clean has been great. However, after my initial outbreak around a year ago, I use it sparingly. If your constantly having to use it, you have a problem. My prob was my skimmer was broke/inefficient. Nowadays, if I see cyano that last more than a week, I dose 1/2 the recommended amount or less. I'm to the point where it's basically non existent.
Only issues:
Make sure you do a water change! I got cocky once and destroyed my xenia a week after dosing, which in reality was a blessing but messy and disturbed everyone else. Additionally, I did jack up a palythoa colony using it because I ignorantly dumped the chemical right over the colony. Eventually they came back, but it took months. Now I pour it in the sump. But to me the benefits have totally outweighed the cost.
I understand the peps against the stuff. But it has worked wonders for myself. Viva la chemi-clean!
joelb
Tue, 30th Nov 2010, 10:00 PM
if it comes back i would change the RO/DO filters, siphon all or most of the slime out, adjust the power heads to get the water moving over those dead spots, do a good size water change with 0 TDS water and do those smaller water changes weekly for a while. good luck.
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