Thanks for the help everyone, slowly but surly

[Jarob]

A NITE LED FELL INTO TANK. EVERYTHING IS DYING. GOING TO DO WATER CHANGE. WHAT SHOULD i DO???

[Jarob]

DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT MY ULTRA CORALS INTO MY FRIENDS TWO MONTH OLD TANK? ALL IN THERTE SO FAR IS XENIA AND CLOWN FISH
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[Europhyllia]

Jarob, so sorry. Yes I would evacuate whatever you can. As long as the lighting is good the friend's tank should be fine for the clams

[StevenSeas]

So an LED fell in and sent electricity throughout the tank? Then I would do a series of water changes, up your carbon usage as well as new chemi-pure or w/e you use for chemical removal. I would skim aggressivly and get more of a watery skimmate than normal, so stuff gets out faster. Doing this probably would allow you to keep your corals in your tank, although still a risk either way. On one hand could stress them more moving than being exposed to the toxins being released. What kind of coral do you keep? if its leathers I wouldnt put it in a tank with only xenia, chemical warfare in which the xenia has a really big headstart

[hobogato]

i agree, probably best to move the things that are not dying temporarily. be sure you are running carbon on the tank and crank up you skimmer to skim wet. you may also add in some of that filter pad for removing copper and other metals as the light may have released some into the water.

good luck, i am sure you will turn it around

[edit] you are too quick aggie :)

[StevenSeas]

removing copper and other metals as the light may have released some into the water.
Very good point ace, if there was exposed metal on the connectors to the LED then w/ electricity running through it in a saltwater mixture then copper or other metals atleast were released. (just hook up 2 copper leads to a 9 v battery and stick them in (not touching) into a glass of tank water just watch what happens lol) most likely copper as part (as it prob is copper wiring) so I would more corals and inverts out of your tank and attempt to remove copper.

[Jarob]

OK guys the fish seem great, the corals have color but are shriveled pretty badly. Mostly LPS, the LPS such as my scoly has receeded enough so you can see all the ridges in the skeleton, same with my acans, some corals like my duncons and a few of the zoas seem fine, im doing a water change right now of 20% but im out of carbon and I dont use a skimmer! Still move the stuff to my friends tank? Ive got a test and a presentation to give at 930!!!! UGH!!!!!

[StevenSeas]

Ive got a test and a presentation to give at 930!!!! UGH!!!!!
WOW that no good
Due to the high likelyhood of copper and or other heavy metal contamination I would move all coral to your friends tank immediately and then finish your water change. Your fish will be fine so long as its not too high of an accumulation of metals. I would add something like stress coat to be safe. but I think its likely heavy metal induced which is why you are seeing soo much change in the corals and none in the fish.

[Jarob]

thanks for the quick feedback guys, im doing this water change as i type (talented i know) and am taking the ultra corals to my friends tank here in about 15 min. Im actually worried about taking them to his tank though, i dunno why

[Big_Pun]

good luck, try and find some "poly-filter", hopefully one the LFS carries it. https://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4136+10473+4335&pcatid=4335

[StevenSeas]

Seachem Copper & Heavy Metals Removing Filter Media Cuprisorb 250
This should help too if you can get your hands on it. If not watch what color your polyfiber turns. Blue or green = copper, and red = iron

[Jarob]

some bad pics

Still move them!??! i just dont have the time but ill skip my exam if i have to, its actually marine ecology so my teacher might be understanding

[StevenSeas]

I would try to move them but make it to your exam on time if possible or even late. I know all my profs are cool w/ lettin ppl start the exam late. All I know is if my parents found out i skipped a class much less an exam for "stupid fish crap" I would be soo tankless lol. but seriously I would try to move them if possible, heck even set them up in some new saltwater in a bucket or 10 gall w/ an airstone or ph in there till you get back

[Jarob]

How does this sound, I took down my baby clownfish tank yesterday and saved 5g of the water for a future tank, can i use that 5g and 5g new water with a pump and put them in that holding tank? if so for how long and should i get some lighting for it or what

I can still make the exam, just late!

[StevenSeas]

I would do the 5 gal and 5 gal thing and leave them in their lightless till you come back from the exam. They wont be out anyways just trying to repair damage, so why bother with the light? Just get them in there for the time being and your probably good to go

[Jarob]

Kay thanks for the help, so far 3 of the places I called dont have any filter media but the 2 best arnt open yet, aquarium masters and GCR. I actually have a presentation at 12 and lab at 2 until 630 so they would be in there until about then, too long or ok?

[Europhyllia]

I think they will be fine in the bucket. Just think of how it goes when you have corals shipped (no light for a day) or when there's a storm in the tropics, etc.
One day in clean water should be fine.
Good Luck. Now take your exam. It will be fine.

[Jarob]

Thank you everyone, i was in panic mode and didnt know what to do!

And thanks to my mom for logging in and posting this topic for me while i was driving to get water (my RODI is broken)

[StevenSeas]

I agree leaving them w/o light is fine. Just keep flow goin in your holding area and take care of it afterwards

[Bill S]

In a pinch, the RO/DI isn't that critical - but just be sure you remove the chlorine. They should be fine in buckets until tonight.

[CoryDude]

good luck, try and find some "poly-filter", hopefully one the LFS carries it.

++ on that. Get the bigger sheet and throw it in a high flow area. I had a cheap pump short out and do the same thing to my lps/softie tank. I did all the above mentioned; decent sized water change, skimming, carbon, and a poly filter and my tank was almost back to normal after a few days. Most of the corals recovered and showed no damage after a month or two.

[Europhyllia]

I had really good results with Poly Filter as well. I always keep a spare for that reason.

[Jarob]

argh im at school wondering about my tank! Aquarium masters has the filter so im gonna go after lab... My tank was just how I liked it too.. here is a pic of it 2 days ago.

[StevenSeas]

wow thats sooo sad those are some really nice corals, i especially love those lps and mostly that BRAIN

[Europhyllia]

Well they're just a little withdrawn -not dead. I am sure it will come back. You did everything you could do. It will be okay. Eventually. :)

[StevenSeas]

just one more reason to either enclose light fixtures or put a top on the tank. think im gonna have to go with the light friendly clear mesh now after reading this and looking up into my canopy....
heres a link if u want to take a look....he sells the stuff for under 2 bucks a sq foot on ebay.....
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=212941

[Europhyllia]

Oh I love his instructions and mesh (see here: http://maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57929&highlight=mesh )
Even weird little stuff like screws don't fall in the tank as easily. And Midas Blennys now have a safety net...

[StevenSeas]

ya I just have to rig up a way to get it to fit in my weird tank, and not ruin my ghetto rimless look (was a standard 30 gallon AGA that I cut the top trim off of and cleaned up) anyways back on topic im sure they will do fine they look very healthy beforehand so they have a lot of food and energy stored up for repair. you just wont get much growth for a while but i bet they will heal.

[Big_Pun]

very nice lps, should be ok as stated allready they where healty to begin with so they will bounce back

[Jarob]

Actually everything about my tank is enclosed including the 7bulb t5 light setup, its in its own acrylic box. the ONLY thing not enclosed are these 3 little 5-led moonlight strips that were fastened to the lighting box... DRAT! They are gone now needless to say. I have seen that mesh before and plan on making it for my next tank which cant be soon enough now, just gotta find one i like.

On a positive note my baby clowns are doing great, I put them in the main display 3 days ago and they go through this... but they are happy, and their duncan colony is actually the only healthy looking coral. You can KINDA see them in that pic up there, the duncans are at the very top offcenter to the left, you can see a orange and white spec!

A happy picture from 3 days ago.

[Europhyllia]

very cute :) They look happy

[Jarob]

Well big thanks to Aquarium Masters for supplying me with all the filter media, and at an emergency discount :) :) I picked up chemi pure, new carbon and a poly filter.

Also a HUGE thanks to Logan for letting me use his remora skimmer, its skimming wet and pulling a ton of crap out!

A few zoas are opening a little bit and the duncans are good and all the fish seem good. Lost a 8x5 colony of pulsing xenia, not a big deal. All the other corals appear to be recovering in the tub set up for them. So far did a 20% H2O change, added those filters, did another 10% change and skimming. Ive got another water change ready for the morning. How long should I keep them in the tub?

Thanks everyone!!!

[StevenSeas]

hmm i would get a copper test. this can either be a test kit or a cheap frag lol but i would say up to a week in the tub

[StevenSeas]

ooo and gotta love the Aqua-C skimmers, very effecient lil things

[StevenSeas]

is your polyfiber changing colors? if so and if it changes to one of the heavy metal colors then i wouldnt add the coral till you can put in a new pad and not notice any change, and a test comes back clean and good to go

[StevenSeas]

Hows it looking today?

[Jarob]

Yea the pads changing colors, I knew I shoulda bought two!

Its looking better... Kills me to look at it, but it is better for sure, the zoas I left in there are opening up a little already and no lights are on, also the rics are back to normal size. Most of the stuff in the tub seems alright, all I know for sure is my scoly, my wellso, the plate and my acans all are sticking their feeding tenticles out so good sign! So far I lost my galexy, xenia, milli and my hammer doesnt look too good but Im thinking thats the end of it.

[StevenSeas]

well thats unfortunate on your losses but it seems like some of your nicer piece imo are doing good, if u ever want some xenia and our paths cross lmk ill hook ya up. what color is the pad changing? good stuff on your rics and zoas being happier good indication

[Jarob]

the pad is tanish right now

[Squiers007]

Glad I could help out Jarob, Keep us updated on how things are looking and let me know if you want some xenia when things get back to normal.

[Jarob]

Quick question to anyone who can answer,

The tank itself seems to be doing a lot better, the duncans left in it look almost back to normal and the rics seem great. The tub that my nicer corals are in seems ok.. the hammer coral in it is dieing for sure and everything else is ok i guess, the plate seems a little on the rough side. When can I place them back in the tank? I did another 10% water change lastnight and will be doing another 10% here in a few min.

[StevenSeas]

I would venture to guess that you are in the clear after the partial. I would drip acclamate them