Zoa Eating Nudi Branches- Starting All Over

[Pennies2Cents]

So we got some zoa eating nudi branches a couple of weeks ago. Who knows where they came from but oh well we got them.:bareteeth:

We had been trying for about 3 weeks to siphon out what we could get & treat all of our frags with a fresh water dip & Lugo's to no avail before we put all of them in the 240. :(

Well, I have sad news... We have lost most if not all of our zoa's due to the stress of treatment and fresh water dips. :( Turns out Ross did a fresh water R/O dip one morning I was not home and I dipped the frags that same night.:Timeout::Timeout:

Needless to say: Our Zoa's have pretty much dissolved and are now dead. Way to much fresh water for them to handle in such little time with the stress of Nudi's eating them didnt help either. :at_wits_end::at_wits_end::eek::eek::cry_smile::cr y_smile:

So we are starting all over! :(

Note: For future references, do not do to many fresh r/o water dips in one day... :( And to have a quarantine tank ready to treat my coral before going into the display.

Lesson Learned!

WTB: Thread Created...

http://www.maast.org/forums/showthread.php?p=753119#post753119

[Gseclipse02]

eve/ross i think i have a lot of the other the ones yall got from me i can check and let yall know i can frag a few but i just dont have frag plugs right now so they will be in a ziplock bag and yall can glue them when you get them

lmk

[Europhyllia]

so sorry. that stinks. :(

[jpond83]

sorry to hear that. do you dip before you put them in your tank?

[Mr Cob]

Sorry to hear this. When I read stuff like this it makes me not want to ever buy or trade a coral again for fear of this happening. Trust me I have had my fair share. I'm fully stocked right now...I SHOULD lock the door and don't let anything new come in....then I have little to no risk of this happening.

Anyways....sorry. You had a nice collection. You may also want to give some of them a chance to still make a come back though. For example; I had a Purple Heart colony completely die off...seriously it was gone.....so I thought. Well, a couple months later a small polyp emerged. I now have 8 polyps from a colony that I thought had completely melted away. So now, when my corals perish, I always leave them be for a couple of months.

You never know what can grow from just a speck.

[jpond83]

always dip

[Bill S]

Wow, Eve. Sorry to hear about that. It seems we all go thru this at one stage. For some reason, we are all good about giving advice, and sometimes not so good about practicing...

[Europhyllia]

I thought I was doing good with dipping but when I got a new gorgo with a huge gorgo eating nudi on it the reef dip didn't seem to bother the nudi at all. :(

[roscozman]

It's a hard pill to swallow when you know you are the one who is responsible for a mistake. Eve and I are obviously still learning the great and sometimes difficult hobby. We also know this is not the worst thing to happen to someone in the saltwater trade and we are determined to keep going.

[mikedelgado]

Many years ago my tank was a zoa eating nudi farm. we are talking big time nudis! my 125 at the time was 90% zoos. I purchased a 1" green coris wrasse for 9 bucks and he ate all of them.A year or so later I purchased a wild caught zoa colony from a vendor,upon placing it in my tank the 1st thing I saw was that wrasse tearing adult nudis out of the heavily infested colony. That was close to 5 years ago. I still have the wrasse, he is about 6'" or so now and I still have 0 nudis.

[roscozman]

Many years ago my tank was a zoa eating nudi farm. we are talking big time nudis! my 125 at the time was 90% zoos. I purchased a 1" green coris wrasse for 9 bucks and he ate all of them.A year or so later I purchased a wild caught zoa colony from a vendor,upon placing it in my tank the 1st thing I saw was that wrasse tearing adult nudis out of the heavily infested colony. That was close to 5 years ago. I still have the wrasse, he is about 6'" or so now and I still have 0 nudis.

We just purchased a 2" Yellow Coris Wrasse that night. We read they take out nudi branches as well...

[Big_Pun]

ive had a yellow coris for a yr and a half any lil bugs or nudis always get taken care of by the wrasse. (knock on wood) no real pest disaters yet, everytime a new frag goes into the tank i put it in the front on the sand and the wrasse comes by to inspect it.

[Mr Cob]

Good info on the yellow and green coris wrasse. That will be my next purchase as a "just in case".

[FireWater]

Wrasses are great pest predators. My Christmas or Ornate wrasse would pratically jump out of the tank to inspect a new frag if he saw me with one - it would also follow me around the tank if I was using the mag float and wait for to move the sand bed a little so it could get to any worms.

Good luck with the recovery and hope the wrasse works well for you.

[FireWater]

Rob, there are bunches of wrasses that will do the same as the coris wrasses. I always had luck with the halichoeres family of wrasses - includes coris, ornate, radiant, checkerboard. In my experience and opinion they are good workers and bonus is the character and color they can add. Most wrasses do need a fine sand bed to to bury in though (I can't remember what substrate you have)

[Mr Cob]

^added those to my list. THX John. My substrate is a 50/50 mix aragonite and small crushed coral....that may be a problem is burrowing is an absolute necessity...???

[FireWater]

Rob, I am not sure to be honest with you. You might have to research it. If it is then it could be a simple fix by adding some finer sand to one area in the back of the tank. I know in the 90 I had 5 different kinds of wrasses and they all slept in different areas - cleaner wrasse found a hole in the rock just his size, 6-line slept in the rocks, fairy and flasher slept in rocks with a spun cocoon each night, and the X-mas slept burrowed in the sand.

[Pennies2Cents]

eve/ross i think i have a lot of the other the ones yall got from me i can check and let yall know i can frag a few but i just dont have frag plugs right now so they will be in a ziplock bag and yall can glue them when you get them

lmk

Thank you so much JT.. This is very generous of you. We have lots of new plugs... Just nothing to put on them.. Until now.. :) Let me know when your available.

Also, we still have your seaweed from the group order...

Again Thanks...

[Pennies2Cents]

A special thanks to all who have pm'd, called or posted on this thread offering frags of your zoa's and advice for the future. :)

Ross & I appreciate it very much. This is 1 of the many reasons why we love being part of this club. Everyone helps each other out!

MAAST MEMBERS You ROCK!

Again Thanks

[Salty]

I feel your pain Eve, I've recently been infested as well, dipped everything and been religious with the siphoning and I think I've beaten them. I'd offer you some frags of mine but I doubt you'd want them.

[Teeb]

Terrible, if ya'll make it by, I'll get try to get you a nice sample of different zoas. I have a bunch of different ones.


PS I heart wrasses - As we were fragging some of the colonies, we kept running across 2"-3" bristle worms. We would pick them up with a pipette and hand feed them to my red coris and new xmas wrasse. It was interested watching them gulp up the worms.

[stoneroller]

A thread from a year ago...

http://maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50526&highlight=guard+dog