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txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:05 PM
I'm alittle confused here. Do chillers have built in pumps or not?

FireWater
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:33 PM
I am not very familiar with chillers, but I just asked and was told some do and some don't. Please don't ask which ones do because I ain't got any idea. LOL

Neptune@gabesfish
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:38 PM
None have them installed..as far as what I have seen anyway

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:40 PM
Im guessing it has a pump. Anyone know anything good/bad about these?
http://www.aquacave.com/cl-85-titanium-chiller-br--by-aquaeuro-usa-2071.html
Might be perfect for a BC14, and it would fit in the stand.

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:41 PM
Thanks, I guess I need to do some more reading.


None have them installed..as far as what I have seen anyway

FireWater
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:45 PM
I keep reading flow rates posted in descriptions. That would leave me to believe that they do not have a pump installed. I was trying to do some quick searches to help you out, but like you I am not having luck and am now confused

dipan
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:47 PM
That doesn't have a pump. I've got one of those little chillers (from my brother in law who upgraded to a bigger chiller) sitting in my hallway that I was supposed to rig up but didn't feel it was worth it ...

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:48 PM
hahahaha same here...They give recommended flow rates, but then they talk about being quiet. what else can make noise in a heat exchanger besides the pump....

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:50 PM
Thanks that answers that question.



That doesn't have a pump. I've got one of those little chillers (from my brother in law who upgraded to a bigger chiller) sitting in my hallway that I was supposed to rig up but didn't feel it was worth it ...

corruption
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:52 PM
Actually, the chiller itself isn't 100% silent either -- they are essentially a small refrigeration unit.. When mine kicks on, I can hear its fan start, and a slight hum of the compressor running. Its not LOUD, but the chiller itself is definitely not silent.

-Justin

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 04:58 PM
Good info, Thanks.



Actually, the chiller itself isn't 100% silent either -- they are essentially a small refrigeration unit.. When mine kicks on, I can hear its fan start, and a slight hum of the compressor running. Its not LOUD, but the chiller itself is definitely not silent.

-Justin

FireWater
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 05:05 PM
OK, I am back - I looked up as many as I could and found the same thing with all the smaller ones. I looked at those since you stated it was for the smaller tank

No pump on all the ones I found

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 05:07 PM
Thanks for putting in some research. I was hoping to be able to add a chiller now and a sump later. Looks like I need the sump first, to hold another pump.



OK, I am back - I looked up as many as I could and found the same thing with all the smaller ones. I looked at those since you stated it was for the smaller tank

No pump on all the ones I found

cadamsreef
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 05:21 PM
How warm is your tank? If it's not more than 80 I would not use a chiller. They use a lot of electricity. I have to use one because my tank would be around 85 without one. Small little cheap fans work the best on smaller tanks.

txg8gxp
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 05:33 PM
If I leave the tank closed all day it will get to 80. But I beat once I get a sump put on and fan like you said I will be fine.

CoryDude
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 05:56 PM
For nano's, there's always the IceProbe chiller. There's no fans so no noise, but you got to drill the tank or sump for the cooling probe. It may work for your application. If not, 1/15th - 1/10th hp size should work.

There's also the Coolworks Microchiller that doensn't require any drilling and does come with a small powerfilter to move the water.

I've had 3 chillers over 15 years and haven't seen one that comes with a pump either.

ErikH
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 07:28 PM
Some dont need a pump, which is a drop in style chiller. You literally set the coil into the water to cool it. The others require a pump, rated for their flowthrough, and no more.

CoryDude
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 09:40 PM
I had an Aquanetics drop in style for my first chiller. They work well, but the flow through designs are much more efficient.

Meslo
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 10:51 PM
as long as your return pump fits in the flow rate of the chiller why not just plumb the chiller inline with your return so no need for second pump ?

CoryDude
Thu, 25th Feb 2010, 11:30 PM
as long as your return pump fits in the flow rate of the chiller why not just plumb the chiller inline with your return so no need for second pump ?

That's the best way to do it.