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twychopen
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 09:54 AM
Sad to say I have had my CBB for a little over 2 days and he is being attacked by something! I have a sixline wrasse, royal grama, scooter blenny, sebae clownfish, and cleaner shrimp. Any ideas? he is missing some fin on the back top of his body, he also looks bruised.
Pic below
hobogato
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 09:59 AM
my order of blame would be:
1. sebae/royal gramma (both can be pretty territorial)
2. 6 line
i dont think you have to worry at all about the cleaner shrimp or scooter blennie.
Bill S
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 10:02 AM
Dittos what Ace said. 6 lines are hit/miss. Most are great, others are real terrors.
Do you have somewhere to put him, like in a fuge? The chances of them surviving the first few weeks go up dramatically when they have their own "place" for a while. Once they get acclimated, they can become the most aggressive feeders in the tank.
Kristy
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 10:05 AM
Very sad :(
Could be the sixline, the gramma, or the clownfish, but none are especially suspect... I certainly would not have predicted the problem.
Butterflies are such mild-mannered guys. Really best to put them in first before more territorial fish, not that this advice helps you much now. Is it possible to pull him out for QT or give him some extra protection? We have done things like hang a breeder net in for a new fish to gradually introduce him into the fold, or even lean a net in the corner. For some reason the established fish are spooked by the net and the new guy gets to hide there for a little extra protection.
Our long-nosed butterfly gets bullied from time to time by our purple tang, very much like a hierarchy of kids in the schoolyard, but this looks like more serious attack. Good luck!
twychopen
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 10:05 AM
I was looking up others and saw something about vibrio. A guy had the same thing happen to his cbb and said it looked bruised.
"Pathogenic Vibrio include V. cholerae (http://www.maast.org/wiki/Vibrio_cholerae) (the causative agent of cholera (http://www.maast.org/wiki/Cholera)), V. parahaemolyticus (http://www.maast.org/wiki/Vibrio_parahaemolyticus), and V. vulnificus (http://www.maast.org/wiki/Vibrio_vulnificus). Vibrio cholerae (http://www.maast.org/wiki/Vibrio_cholerae) is generally transmitted via contaminated water.[3] (http://www.maast.org/forums/#cite_note-FaruqueNair-2) Pathogenic Vibrio can cause foodborne infection (http://www.maast.org/w/index.php?title=Foodborne_infection&action=edit&redlink=1), usually associated with eating undercooked seafood."
Could it have been brought into the tank by the fw mussels?
How do I get him out? I can't use a net right?
CoryDude
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 10:53 AM
Agree with everyone else except mine would be:
1) six line (everyone I've had was a monster)
2) royal gramma
Not sure about the disease theory. I'd still put money on one of the above. I'd watch them, even at night to see if there's a fight club going on.
Ace can recommend a good trap.
twychopen
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:09 AM
well he is now sitting on the bottom laying on his side...not looking good. I am trying to get him to put him into my sump.
I was able to just pick him up out of my tank with my hands. Put him in the sump. He swims then lays down, swims and lays down. :( Sad day
Europhyllia
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:12 AM
Oh that sounds bad. I'm sorry :(
Big_Pun
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:30 AM
that bites hopes he pulls thru, i lost a cbb a while back
twychopen
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:33 AM
well somewhat better news I guess, He is now staying upright and swimming in the sump. His fin looks pretty bad idk if he will recover from it or not. I will keep everyone updated. Thanks for the help!
Mike
Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 08:13 PM
Keep feeding frequently... fingers crossed for a swift recovery...
twychopen
Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 09:53 AM
Well bad news is I came in and he is in a permanent sleep. :( What a bummer. I am not sure what happened, I still have questions about vibrio but guess it more likely was an attack by a fish. I never thought that any of my other fish were that aggressive. Guess I was wrong.
Bill S
Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 10:30 AM
Sorry to hear that.
These guys really are tough to get past the first few weeks. Once done, they usually do well.
Big_Pun
Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 10:49 AM
that wrasse and some others are very agressive, royal grama, and even most clowns are aggressive, just how this hobby is.
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