can anyone help me with zeovit?

[verynewatthis]

Hello all,
I have been running zeovit for a few months and im sure im messing it up. I was wondering if we have some zeo heads on mast that would be willing to talk to me for a few mins on the phone. If you know about the basics plz give me a call, my number is 254 495 1320. Thank you much guys and gals.

V/R

Rich

[CoryDude]

What's up? Not getting the nitrate reduction? Slime problem? Livestock/coral issues?

[cbianco]

Hello all,
I have been running zeovit for a few months and im sure im messing it up. I was wondering if we have some zeo heads on mast that would be willing to talk to me for a few mins on the phone. If you know about the basics plz give me a call, my number is 254 495 1320. Thank you much guys and gals.

V/R

Rich

Is it a specific concern that you have? How can we help you?

Many members may be reluctant to call or possibly don't have time to call.

Also, there aren't too many of us running Zeo systems. Maybe someone can look up your question to assist you.

Thanks,

Christopher :)

[ErikH]

have you looked on the zeovit forums?

[ErikH]

www.ZEOVIT.com (http://www.ZEOVIT.com)

[FireWater]

I agree w/ all the above posts. There is way too much about Zeovit to be that general and the forum Eric referenced to above is a great starting point. Even the basics depend on what you want to accomplish. The issue you are having and the cost factor are the 2 main reasons I shy away from starting it.

[fishypets]

I run ZEO, what's up?

[Goofball310]

Which Zeo products are you running? I also have some experience with it.

[verynewatthis]

i think i found out what i was doing wrong. More then anything i just wanted to talk to someone and ask how it went for them. I did try the zeo site but got lost with all the info. Plus im just after a better understanding of the system in 3rd grade terms if you know what i mean. Its kinda hard to understand how to adjust the doses and why. All my prams are looking great, but i grow a green algea. Its not GHA it is like something you would see in a fugee. But i also know that with the green stuff will eating the trates, trites, and phos.. so what is a guy to do..lol. I know i must have them still in the tank if the stuff keeps growing. I do use good test kits. All new salfert ones. Plus every coral is happer then i have ever seen them. But i feel like im just shooting in the dark here.
I just got back from Iraq and wanted to find a mentor i guess.
best wishes to everyone and there tanks.

V/R
Rich

[verynewatthis]

ops, i didnt answer everyone questions..

main problem is i dont know how to adjust my doses.

2nd is the green stuff growing. dont know the type it is, but ill take a pic and post it in a few mins.

Yes i did try the site, but they are hit and miss on talking to me. Plus most of the time i get told to do searches. I have always had friendly help here on maast so thats why i turned here in hopes for help.

As of right now i am just using the basic 4 zeoback, start, food, and stones. Plus AC if you count that.


V/R
Rich

[ReefCube]

zeo is crazy hard to keep up not to mention very expensive many people try it and end up throwing in the towel and just keep your tank stable and get the same results if not better

[ErikH]

Yeah, there is a ton of crazy upkeep, like kneading your media daily. Man, I ain't got the time for that. :) Ok well maybe I do, just not the discipline. Maybe you need to knead.

[txav8r]

I'm gonna try to swing by around 4:30. You still going to be home?

[ErikH]

yep. :) I gotta get the kiddo at some point.

[CoryDude]

ReefCentral always has an active discussion or two about the zeo method including dosage recommendations. I thought excessive slime meant you were dosing too much.

Gotta agree with Eric, way too much to do each day. It was all the daily regimines that turned me off to this system more than costs.

[verynewatthis]

sorry for the delay in my reply with pics...but a deployed soilders wife broke down and i had to go and fix her truck and get her home...
so here the yuck in my tank...i have added two pics to show the growth of this stuff over the span of just one week.

pic 1
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/hancockrich/example1.jpg

pic 2 one week later
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/hancockrich/example2.jpg

i only have 5 places in the tank that is growing that stuff... so im kinda lost...

here are 2 pics just for the fun of viewing. Cheers

pretty little cap
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/hancockrich/fun2.jpg

love this coral. its one of my favs.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/hancockrich/fun1.jpg

V/R
Rich

[verynewatthis]

oh ya...sorry if the pics are not that great. I took them with my phone.

Rich

[fishypets]

zeo is crazy hard to keep up not to mention very expensive many people try it and end up throwing in the towel and just keep your tank stable and get the same results if not better

I'd like to see you tank, especially if you can get better colors with your method.

[verynewatthis]

well i have not been home that long, so i dont even know what color everything will be in a month..lol..
I have nt started working the color with them yet, im still trying to get the water in check. But once i do, people are always welcome.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

ops...im stupid, thought you were talking to me..lol...

[verynewatthis]

kinda off subject for a sec, can someone link or pm me the membership stuff. I need to renew ..ty much..

rich

[cbianco]

...I just got back from Iraq and wanted to find a mentor i guess...

Thank you brother for your service to our country!

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Charter Membership/Renewal information can be found in post 1 of this thread.

http://www.maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54644

Christopher

[fishypets]

Verynewatthis,

Actually your corals look pretty good. IMO you still have slightly elevated PO4 or NO3 just from looking at your corals and the algae you have growing on the rocks. Have you tested with a low range test kit lately? Also trace elements are you dosing?

[verynewatthis]

woot, i think i did it right. Let me know if i messed it up somehow.

Ty Ty

Rich

[verynewatthis]

Yes, i did test on the low range and they are very clear. I know i have something cuz they are still growing..lol...but i dont think i was dosing the right amount of start. Well i know i wasnt..lol... ill give it a week with the new dose and see what happens. as for trace. not doing any.. just weekly WC's and food.

Rich

[fishypets]

The ZEOvit guys will advise against this but I've found running Phosband for two weeks in addition to start2 will lower any P04 very fast. I've done this a few times with no ill effects. I was quite amazed at how fast my corals lightened up in color, it happened overnight.

[verynewatthis]

hmm...i might just have to look and see if i have some phosband left over ...what could it hurt to do overnight right...

rich

[Richard]

That algae looks like bryopsis to me.

[verynewatthis]

yup, i just looked at the pics on google and i think your right on the ID.
Now i just have to get rid of it...lol..anyone know its kryptonite?

Rich

[Europhyllia]

Bryopsis look here:
http://www.bryopsis.com/

works like a charm but it will also reduce your pod population

Keep in mind that if the nutrient are there another algae (like hair algae) will likely take it's place. More critters eat hair algae than bryopsis though so you might be able to keep it in check with a clean up crew.

[verynewatthis]

i just found this thread... Says to raise the Mag way up. But it looks like it works fast. check it out. with 4 pics of 4 days of death.

http://www.marineaquariumsa.com/showthread.php?t=167

Im off to test my mag lvl...woot...

rich

[verynewatthis]

ty euro mom, i just saw something like that...posed a different link but it looks the same as far as what to do. and the neat thing is that Mag mix can be made at home. From epson salt...woot I love cheap fix. But i think i have some left over stuff ill have to check. But first im off to test my mag lvl..

rich

[verynewatthis]

arg...just looked at my Mag test kit and im out of the MG-3 part of it. Dose anyone sell that test kit in austin?.. im willing to drive a hr to get it today.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

marine depot has it for 27 and i can overnight it for 37 bucks... i bet i would burn more then that in gas with my 4 wheel drive truck..lol.. But then i have a reason to go to austin.

Rich

[fishypets]

Rich,

If you're going to order MG online make sure you get a few gallons of it. When running zeo it tends to deplete faster, I dose about 100 ml/day on my 200. FYI

[verynewatthis]

I just found a few pounds of it that i got from bulk reef...Woot, score. I will use thier water cal to find out how much is safe to up it a day and start with that. I just need to get a new test kit now. OMG...im so happy about this. Maybe i should make a baby thread about it and add pics of progress with it..

rich

[fishypets]

Cool deal Rich, let me know how the BRS MG works out.

[verynewatthis]

Will do, I have use BRS stuff before and it dose just as it says. I only stoped using it cuz i got Aqua-C sweet RX-1 reactor.

Im all pinging over the chance of this working. My wife has even stoped answering my texts at work..lol..

Rich

[verynewatthis]

well i just tested the phos, and it comes up as nothing...but the good news is my wife texted me back and i found a new test kit for Mag. Woot, i love that woman. Ill let ya know where im at in a few.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

Arg, i Fail. My mag was only at 1080. And i can only raise it 100ppm per day. So its going to take a few days to get it where it needs to be. Ill be adding 16 oz of mag and see where that gets me. Time to break out the dosing pump. Ill keep yall updated.

rich
ps, when will my membership change go in to effect?

[CoryDude]

Yeah I cringed when I saw your pics.

Get your nitrates as low as possible by doing 50% water changes every other day. Then dose the mess out of that mag. But, only use Kent. Nothing else seems to work. Depending on your tank size it'll take a few gallons of the stuff to get your levels up.

After you see the stuff die off, maintain your mg level at the high level for at least a month. Make sure to watch your alk levels while your mg levels are high.

Best of luck. Please keep us posted.

[verynewatthis]

Okay, i just tested the Mag again and now its at 1200. Just a touch over 100ppm but i dont think its to bad, because i added it very slow to the tank. I guess now i have to wait a day to add more. Ill let ya know what happens.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

heres the thing about trates, trites, and phos. I cant read them with my test kits. I do use good kits, and have see them before with very low readings. But they dont pick anything up right now. But that could be cuz the plants are eatting them. Dont know. Plus i run Zeo and have no clue how it plays in to the mix. I think i might add a cup of GFO to the reactor just for good messures.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

wow, i just tested my alk and it droped from 8.3 to 6.6 after half a day just because i raised my Mag by 100ppm. Thats crazy. is this normal?..id understand some change but OMG...

Rich

[Ed]

Rich,

Is your BRS Mg magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) or magnesium chloride? I used BRS Mg Chloride and epsom salt (Mg sulfate) to whip the bryopsis in my tank. That may be why some folks have good luck with Kent Tech-M - it has both Mg Chloride and Mg Sulfate but a higher concentration of the Chloride. HTH.

-Ed

P.S. Thanks for your service! Glad you are home and safe.

[verynewatthis]

i mix them both when i make my mix. I have tried them alone and i dont like them as much as i do together.

Rich

[verynewatthis]

Okay, here we go.

http://www.bryopsis.com/ ...Says you can up Mag 300ppm a day. I have done big mag raised in the past with no problems. but that was way back in the day when i didnt know what i was doing..lol..

quick summary for ya. I tested yesterday morning and my mag was at 1080. I took it up 1350 yesterday and will be doing 300ppm today. Ill let yall know what happens.

Wish me luck,
Rich