View Full Version : Showpiece rock, Mushroom and bryopsis
recoiljpr
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 09:42 AM
All,
I purchased a showpiece rock from a reefer a few months ago that ended up having bryopsis on it. I placed the rock in a rubbermaid container with powerhead, etc and total darkness for 3 weeks. I then scrubbed the rock hard and put it in my tank.
A month later, I see little bits of what looks like bryopsis starting to grow on it (GRRRRR!!!). From what I can think, my only next step is to totally nuke the sucker and turn it into dead rock. Normally, not a big deal but (you knew there would be a but!!!) There is a huge 5+" mushroom I want to keep. It's "foot" is firmly in a crack on the rock that I cannot get to. I would like to avoid killing it if possible.
My questions are -
1. Any other ideas to remove the bryopsis? I would hate to kill that one rock.
2. If I do have to nuke it, any ideas on how I can save the shroom?
JoshOdphi
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 09:50 AM
i would say jus take a razor blade to the bottom of its stalk at least as far down as u can reach and jus cut it...put it in a container with some rubble rock or crushed coral...should reattach....shouldnt die....
carlinsa
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 10:28 AM
there is a post called wageing war on bryopsis in this particular forum. before you kill the rock maybe send Bstreep a message and ask him from what i understand he is the self-proclaimed byropsis murderer.
http://maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52844
Bill S
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the PM. As noted above, I'd remove the mushroom - it should do fine - and anything else you want off of the rock.
Take the rock, and put it in freshwater. Outside is fine. Add some bleach to the water, and let it sit for a week. Feel free to scrub the spot on the rock. I prefer bleach, because it dissipates in the air. Then run lots of water thru it, changing it a couple of times a day. Depending upon how big the container is, take a pound or 2 of anhydrous baking soda (bake it at 350 for an hour or so), and sprinkle it LIBERALLY over the rock - especially where the bryopsis was. Leave it for a couple of days or a week. Then do some water changes regularly.
Depending upon how big the rock is, you may not want to add it back to the tank, before recycling it. You can then add seawater from your tank, and a handful of sand, let it cycle for a couple of weeks. Then add it back to the display.
Having ruined a tank that started with a tiny spot of bryopsis, I would nuke the rock RIGHT NOW.
cpreefguy
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 11:25 AM
Great advice Bill.
And good luck recoiljpr !
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 11:40 AM
Question... What is the likelyhood of the algea growing back if you take a razor to the rock and simply cut it out (including a piece of rock underneath the growth)? I have two spots of this stuff in my tank, but it doesnt seem to be taking over... yet.
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 11:55 AM
there is a post called wageing war on bryopsis in this particular forum.
http://maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52844
This is a great link, I dont think mine is bryopsis, just hair algea.
cpreefguy
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 01:49 PM
Question... What is the likelyhood of the algea growing back if you take a razor to the rock and simply cut it out (including a piece of rock underneath the growth)? I have two spots of this stuff in my tank, but it doesnt seem to be taking over... yet.
Likelyhood? I'd say, 100%
Bryopsis is like a cancer in the reef tank. It will take over, only a matter of time. I'd follow Bill's instructions ASAP. JMO, not worth losing your tank over a piece of LR...
recoiljpr
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 01:55 PM
Man, not what I wanted to hear Bill, but thanks for the info! I guess it's time to say bye bye to that rock. Man I loved that thing, it's what made my little cave possible. I guess I'll have the two islands in there for a while. It's not often I found a rock that shape and size (13" long). I also just (last weekend) glued some frags on it. Guess i'll have to move them. Stupid Algae, die already daggumit.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb220/recoiljpr/tank.jpg
JoshOdphi
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:16 PM
so wut u gon do with the mushroom??
recoiljpr
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:24 PM
so wut u gon do with the mushroom??
I'm going to cut it out with a razor tonight. I'm then going to put it in a wide jar on a smaller rock I have and put it in the fuge for a while to see if it will attach.
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:36 PM
I am not going to argue, just did some cleaning and took a pretty big piece out to bake. I cut down alot of the hair algea, but the piece I took out was just too far gone:mad: I will keep an eye on the other pieces and probly end up rotating the curing process so that I keep a good amount of live rock and pods in the tank. Thanks for the advice.
Likelyhood? I'd say, 100%
Bryopsis is like a cancer in the reef tank. It will take over, only a matter of time. I'd follow Bill's instructions ASAP. JMO, not worth losing your tank over a piece of LR...
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:37 PM
Sweet set up! The cave is definitly cool:thumbs_up:
Man, not what I wanted to hear Bill, but thanks for the info! I guess it's time to say bye bye to that rock. Man I loved that thing, it's what made my little cave possible. I guess I'll have the two islands in there for a while. It's not often I found a rock that shape and size (13" long). I also just (last weekend) glued some frags on it. Guess i'll have to move them. Stupid Algae, die already daggumit.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb220/recoiljpr/tank.jpg
JoshOdphi
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:47 PM
recoiljpr...thas cool...u should have no problem with the shroom reattaching....uriah sorry to hear u lost some lr to hair algea...i have some in my tank im not gon lie...thot it was gon take over but my hermits sure have hit it hard...theyve been taking care of it for me...still grows here and there but nothing drastic...least not yet...knock on wood
recoiljpr
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 04:50 PM
Sweet set up! The cave is definitly cool:thumbs_up:
Thanks! I have the Mrs. to thank for that. My first go it was just a pile of rocks. But she's the artistic type and saw the ability to do a cave. I just shut up, and lifted the rocks the way she directed me.
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 05:59 PM
No need to appologize, I didnt want that stuff taking over the tank:whew:When you see all those pics of tanks covered, makes you think twice about chancing it...
uriah sorry to hear u lost some lr to hair algea
uriah
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 05:59 PM
Plus as soon as the rock is cured, it will be right back in the display...
JoshOdphi
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 06:44 PM
yea thas true...it'll get covered and recover quickly in ur tank....
Bill S
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 07:24 PM
Oh, if only I had known that my "hair algae" was actually bryopsis. It started as a tiny little spot of "hair algae". I was in denial.
recoiljpr
Tue, 11th Aug 2009, 07:37 PM
Oh, if only I had known that my "hair algae" was actually bryopsis. It started as a tiny little spot of "hair algae". I was in denial.
Well thanks Bill. I got home, cut out the shroom, took off the snails and nuked the rock. It's currently sitting outside in a bleach/water mixture. I swear it had gotten even worse in just 24 hours. That stuff is daggum evil.
I miss the cave, but in a few months, it will be back!
uriah
Wed, 12th Aug 2009, 10:30 PM
In the tank it looked like hair algea, but once I got the rock out, some of the algea was still really prickly vs. the hair algea that just mushed. I think some of it was bryopsis... Better safe than sorry.
Oh, if only I had known that my "hair algae" was actually bryopsis. It started as a tiny little spot of "hair algae". I was in denial.
JoshOdphi
Wed, 12th Aug 2009, 10:39 PM
true that......
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