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SeriouslyTicked
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 08:47 AM
...Ok so we're using the RSA 135 Protein Skimmer from Euro-Reef Aquarium Systems. It's been running fine until about four or five months ago it started overflowing on almost a regular basis. It seems to happen about once a month, and always during the night between when I go to bed (10-11pm) to when I get up (6am).

Tank Specs:
110 gallon (high) 48 7/8 x 19 x 30 3/4 H
~50 Gallon Sump
RSA 135 Protein Skimmer from Euro-Reef


I'm trying to think back to what we changed when this started happening but nothing has change on our part. My wife and I spend a lot of time watching the tank, especially before we go to bed each night. I'm always adding Calcium and Alk supplements each night and every time I spot check the skimmer. I try and keep the top of the bubbles about 3"-4" from the top of the skimmer and it works out great. Every week I dump a good amount of waste to keep the cup clean. After the first overflow "event" I thought maybe I was waiting too long to empty the cup as I was letting it get about 4" full of waste before dumping. After these overflows started happening I would dump the cup a lot more often, not letting more than about 1" of waste collect in the cup. But that's not making a difference at all, it still overflows each month, and always in the middle of the night!!

This is usually how it goes down:
I wake up check on the tank the skimmer is overflowing again, dumping the waste that was collected back into the sump. When this happens it seems as though there are no bubbles at all and water is just flowing up and out the top. This makes a complete mess and the cleanup makes me late for work every time it happens. I empty/rinse the cup mount it back on the skimmer, power skimmer back on and pull the bubbles back down for about 24-48 hours before adjusting up again. Skimmer works beautifully, collecting waste, and humming along. I empty the cup about once or twice a week, which is usually about 1" of waste. But about a month later (during the night) the skimmer overflows again.

We do water tests about once or twice a week and we ALWAYS get the same good results. The only thing that really changes is the CA and ALK since I continue struggling to try and find a dosage that will keep the levels at what I want. But I can't find a correlation between those levels and the overflowing "events." Nothing really changes inside the tank itself, coral continue to grow, fish seem happy and continue to grow, no signs of parasites ...etc. I'm at my wits end with this. Is the skimmer malfunctioning? Am I doing something wrong? I searched the forums on Euro-Reef's site, Reef Central, and Google, but the only thing I can come up with is people saying "...the skimmer is producing too much wet skimmate..." but I honestly don't know what that means. (sorry). When things are working fine, the skimmer produces good black waste that I dump on a regular basis, and everytime I think it's not going to happen again because of how well it's working but.... it still happens!!!


What else do I need to try?

ErikH
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 08:59 AM
Skimmers are made for overflowing. This is the reason that I ditched mine. You could disassemble the pump, and make sure it is clean. Clean the entire skimmer's body, AND AIRLINE. Keep the red gate all the way open and ensure nothing is blocking the air hose. If any kind of blockage hits that airhose, the water level will rise instantly and overflow, with little to no bubbles. If it is still overflowing with the gate and air all the way open, do a water change and run carbon overnight and try again. You may need to change 20% daily to get the water's quality back to where it is not overflowing the skimmer constantly. If the carbon is not working, run phosban for 4 days, take it out and replace it and run another 4 days, followed by 4 days of carbon. Do another 20% change and try, try again. Check the impeller, if it is damaged (ie. missing teeth), it may need to be replaced.

DSAfanatic
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 09:58 AM
Man I feel you. I came home to a mess yesterday. I have an Aquac EV skimmer and the waste cup overflows into a seperate 1 gallon container. Well when the skimmer went crazy, it overlowed my 1 gallon container and went all over my floor in my living room. And to make it worse as it was spilling everywhere in my living room, my auto top off was just giving it more water to let it keep going!!!!!

JeffCo
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 10:22 AM
Dont really know that skimmer, but is it hooked up directly from the overflow or is water provided to the skimmer via the sump?

msmith619
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 10:35 AM
I agree with the above. Dis-assemble the protein skimmer and clean all surfaces. They sometimes get a build-up and don't work well. Cleaning any slimey build-ups might help it bubble normally.

ErikH
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 11:05 AM
Man I feel you. I came home to a mess yesterday. I have an Aquac EV skimmer and the waste cup overflows into a seperate 1 gallon container. Well when the skimmer went crazy, it overlowed my 1 gallon container and went all over my floor in my living room. And to make it worse as it was spilling everywhere in my living room, my auto top off was just giving it more water to let it keep going!!!!!


Honestly, you may want to take the overflow tube off and just let it overflow in your sump. It's better than having smelly water all over your floor, and better than letting your ATO drop your salinity. My .02

SeriouslyTicked
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 11:16 AM
Thank you all for the feedback!

Jeffco: The skimmer sits inside the sump, with a submersible pump that feeds the water, combining it with air from a hose that sticks out of the water. I try and keep the air hose clean by rinsing it with warm freshwater, but only when I feel it needs it. Oddly enough I did clean that hose this week, Monday night!


Based on the feedback on this forum and Reef-Central it seems that it might help to disassemble and clean the skimmer/pump. How often does everyone else need to clean their skimmers like that?

ErikH
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 11:18 AM
How often does everyone else need to clean their skimmers like that?

Too many variables to answer that! It depends on tank and bioload. I would do it around 1 time per year.

tony
Thu, 18th Jun 2009, 12:50 PM
i try to clean mine every 6 months or so. the motor cant possibly be too clean