Salt, salt, salt. What the difference behind the brand?

[moe]

A good friend of mines was told that using a different brand of “salt” would help the tank, corals, and livestock. Not to mention of course, many problem he have with his tank (due to lack of knowledge).

“Oceanic” the brand that I use and only use was the brand that he was committed with. Told that the brand “Kent” was better to use in his tank. Two weeks ago he made a water change (half his tank) and use “Kent” brand. He notices a drastic change in his livestock. I don’t know if the different brand of salt plays the part of compromising his livestock or not? However a few of fish die instantly of ick.

I check his tank yesterday took reading and ask him many questions? It’s obvious that an ill fish was introduced to the tank and how it spread. But how much of a difference did switching the salt brand made?

[BioCube14]

i would say as long *** your levels are good it does not matter. If you have a bunch of sps/corals you will need salt with more calcium. if you dont have a ton of corals i dont think it matters. As long as you do water changes when your supposed to you will be fine.

[Jonthefishguy]

This subject has come up many times throughout the aquaria trade and it boils down to personal choice. Everyone has their own idea on what salt works better than another. Many people like KENT over INSTANT OCEAN. However, KENT uses INSTANT OCEAN as their base and simply adds extra additives to boost the levels of minerals such as calcium, iodine, iron and so on.

Another thing to consider is that many times, as salt batches from each manufacturer is completed and another one is made, the consistancy varies slightly.

Salt does not cause fish to die of ich. Obviously there was an underlying factor that was overlooked.

[moe]

[QUOTE=BioCube14;659133]i would say as long *** your levels are good it does not matter.

What do my *** has to do with the levels. lol:bigsmile:

[corkyGramma]

Moe you're gona find everyone has their own oppinion about salts. I've used them all in commercial tanks and KENT brand varies little. I know many hobbists like to use the Pro-series of salts such as Red Sea and I forget the other one. Ick can be caused by stress (maybe due to a drastic water change) but I suggest you read up on it real well so you don't get influenced by myths about ick.

[hobogato]

i agree with all previous posts - salt brand did not cause ich outbreak. maybe the water change was done with water that didnt match the original tank parameters (temp, pH, salinity, etc) which caused stress on already infected fish....

[moe]

Moe you're gona find everyone has their own oppinion about salts. I've used them all in commercial tanks and KENT brand varies little. I know many hobbists like to use the Pro-series of salts such as Red Sea and I forget the other one. Ick can be caused by stress (maybe due to a drastic water change) but I suggest you read up on it real well so you don't get influenced by myths about ick.

I'm glad that u bring up the myth on ick. That another subject that rattles me. I read up on ick and treatment. It seem that there are many myth about curing ick. The one i read last night gave a very good break down on myth and real treatment. I was surprise on how certain treatment were considered myths, that in book, or pet-store owner would suggest. And this is not pushing any brand just to sell.

[corkyGramma]

A good friend of mines was told that using a different brand of “salt” would help the tank, corals, and livestock. Not to mention of course, many problem he have with his tank (due to lack of knowledge).

“Oceanic” the brand that I use and only use was the brand that he was committed with. Told that the brand “Kent” was better to use in his tank. Two weeks ago he made a water change (half his tank) and use “Kent” brand. He notices a drastic change in his livestock. I don’t know if the different brand of salt plays the part of compromising his livestock or not? However a few of fish die instantly of ick.

I check his tank yesterday took reading and ask him many questions? It’s obvious that an ill fish was introduced to the tank and how it spread. But how much of a difference did switching the salt brand made?
"a friend of mines...."
Hey Moe, where are you from? I think I hear a New York accent! No really, I hear it. hee hee. Glad to see you around. -Yvonne

[moe]

It great to see u yve'

[corkyGramma]

You maastard! (125g) catching up to me aye!

[DrMark]

Look here:

http://www.maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41194

mark

[moe]

Thanks for the link, why did red sea did so good?

[Obi-Wan the Goby]

My guess would be that it was the low temperature of the new water that brought out the Ich, and not the salt used.

[wesheltonj]

Oceanic, Kent, Coralife all owned by the same company. Central Pet. Any real differance? Doubtful.

[Jonthefishguy]

Oceanic, Kent, Coralife all owned by the same company. Central Pet. Any real differance? Doubtful.


Yes there is a difference as they are not all the SAME company. They just share the same PARENT company. Big difference.

[wesheltonj]

Really? Then why has some Coralife products have been rebranded as Oceanic, and Oceanic tanks comming off the same line as All-Glass

[Jonthefishguy]

Really? Then why has some Coralife products have been rebranded as Oceanic?


Good question. I will contact them tomorrow and have an answer for you.

[Jonthefishguy]

By the way, what have you seen that was Coralife get renamed?

[DrMark]

Thanks for the link, why did red sea did so good?

dont know, was an unbiased report. I use Red Sea coral pro salt.
mark

[seatrueblue]

I use red sea pro salt too..hey Moe, Have you seen the sticky:myths and facts about marine ich?

Click here if you haven't> http://www.maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49040

[moe]

yeah, I did, I have to read it again. I could not believe that some of the method of so call "curing ich" that I read in books turn out to be myths. Not that I had a hugh problem with ich (knock on wood) but now I know. And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOEEOOOHHHhhh

Thx alot it open my eye's.

moe

[moe]

Ok I have another question (this is for u DrMark). Looking at the result for "kent" (is it safe to say). Ok I could see a person asking "what kind of brand salt are good for corals"? Or a advent user of "Kent" for there reef tank, would suggest that product to another who's looking to start a reef tank?

This of course without knowing the report.

[Jonthefishguy]

Really? Then why has some Coralife products have been rebranded as Oceanic, and Oceanic tanks comming off the same line as All-Glass


I just got off the phone with CENTRAL PETS. Central Pets was created by CENTRAL GARDEN and PETS which bought up KENT, OCEANIC, and ENERGY SAVERS. They are the parent company to all these mentioned. Your statement is wrong. Not one of Coralifes products have ever been renamed OCEANIC. In fact, (which I already knew) ENERGY SAVERS was renamed CORALIFE. ENERGY SAVERS now CORALIFE also dealt with products related to reptiles and so they created ZILLA, a subgroup of the parent company. You edited you previous post. Oceanic and ALL GLASS do come off the same line. They do not make light fixtures so that is not done under the same building. Since AQUEON was already rolling out their own product outside of aquariums such as filters, food, decoration, and the such, they decided to incorporate ALL-GLASS and rename it AQUEON. So there is your answer.

[moe]

I smell something FISHY guys.

[justahobby]

Maybe I am reading the charts wrong, but it appears red sea did very poorly and coralife was better in terms of silica, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate being low?

[corkyGramma]

:p I think the chart is a great reference, hte best rated give you a good starting point. After all different livestock have different needs so find which one your corals love.

[alton]

Red Sea is the only natural sea salt with calcium/buffers added to work with R/O water. If there is another sorry I left them out? I used Kent for many years until they switched formulas several years ago. I use Red Sea Pro and sometimes Reef Crystals.

[wesheltonj]

I understood that the Coralife chillers had been rebranded to Oceanic, and Oeceanic lights rebranded to Coralife. If I am wrong, I am wrong.