WATER ALL OVER THE FLOOR.

[sampsonndelila]

My submersible pump took a dump last night, it let the sump over flow a little but I have pretty much fixed the overflow problem. So I replaced my submersible pump with an external. I really don't have plumbing, just flex tubing. I think I need to make some hardened PVC stuff. Last night in the middle of the night, the new external pump built up too much pressure because of a valve I had to install because new pump is way too big... you can tell where this is going. Off goes the tubing and there goes all the water in my sump. I am guessing 15-20 gallons. I should have bought hose clamps. Anyone have a submersible pump lying around they don’t need any more. I need a pretty big one; the one I am replacing is about 6 inches long and 3 inches deep. Don’t know GPM or anything.

[alton]

List the size of your return pipe/hose, it might help to figure the size of your return pump. exp: is it 1 - 1"

[Bill S]

1) post some pix

2) if your return pump fails, there should be NO REASON for anything to overflow. Show us what you have, so we can help you with your design. You never want to be in a position where, if anythign fails, you have water on the floor.

I have a large - 2400 gph - new pump sitting in my garage. LMK if that might work.

[Morena_Model]

haha my bf overflowed our sump...i don't know how he managed to do that...but he pulled me out of the shower to help him clean up and I walked into a living room filled with water lol

[aquasport24]

Welcome to the flood club. I had 2 so far, one with 4 gallons of lime water and another with new skimmer went crazy and dumped about 10 gallons in the living room.

[sampsonndelila]

My return line is 1 inch I think. There are 2 1inch arches pulling water from the tank. The tank is 125 gallons and my sump is like 25 gal. I think. I fixed the over flow problem I had before. Now if I loose power there is little to none lost. But night before last my hose on my new pump blew off, because of a valve I had to install to slow the flow. I should have used hose clamps. Which I did last night and so far so good.

[Texreefer]

still a little conderned when you say "little to none Lost" you should never ever lose any water if you lose power.. there are two reasons for this. either the return pump is pushing too much water causing you to have to fill the sump too much to avoid it sucking air or the sump is too small.. since you said the sump is about 25 gal i think your return might be too big

[Bill S]

haha my bf overflowed our sump...i don't know how he managed to do that...but he pulled me out of the shower to help him clean up and I walked into a living room filled with water lol


I've used that trick before too...:bigsmile::bigsmile:

[d3rryc]

Also make sure your return line into the main tank has some sort of siphon prevention. Mine has a small hole drilled in the PVC above the water line so that the return line can't siphon back down into the sump when I lose power. If your return line is siphoning, you can suck far more water back into your sump than the sump was meant to handle.

[RayAllen]

just about 5 years in the hobby and I have yet to have a flood of any sort. Take the correct precautions and it just does not happen. Drill a hole in the return line at the water line so that if power goes off it only allows a very little amount of water to drain back into the sump.

It is also important to know just how much more water your sump can handle incase of a problem. For examply my sump when running hold approx 15gs of water and incase of a emergency can hold a additional 10-12gs.

[Gseclipse02]

Also make sure your return line into the main tank has some sort of siphon prevention. Mine has a small hole drilled in the PVC above the water line so that the return line can't siphon back down into the sump when I lose power. If your return line is siphoning, you can suck far more water back into your sump than the sump was meant to handle.


this is exactly what happen to me


then i had to drill the hole but now water comes out of it lol


here's a pic

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/gseclipse02/hole.jpg


it might suck up about half a gallon at most since i did the hole

[DrMark]

I have been there.......believe me. Almost all people (you are lucky Ray) have had water on the floor for one reason or another. No matter the precautions, there is always something. I had an inflow to the ro/di "pop off" to cause my big flood. You can have backup precautions and even backup the backup precautions, but inevitably if you are in the hobby long enough there will be water on the floor. Having lots of towels and a wet/dry vac available is just part of the equipment list.
mark

[d3rryc]

Yep, water will come out when the pump's running. I lessened the noise by wrapping a piece of filter floss around the pipe, which keeps the stream of water coming out of the hole from splashing. I just have to be careful to check on it from time to time and make sure the hole hasn't clogged up.

[RayAllen]

water on floor I have had but mostly from drips or me doing a messy water change, but not from flooding.

I have always been super careful because most have my tanks have been on carpet and now I have boubor which is not cheap so my wife would be a little upset... My wife had dedicated a whole stack of towels and wash clothes to me because she just knows I need them, lol.

[Gseclipse02]

I've used that trick before too...:bigsmile::bigsmile:


lol...

[sampsonndelila]

I made that mistake as well, I had my return deep in my water, the last time it drained 5 inches out my 125, dont know how much water that is but it was horriable. thank God for tile. I need to be more careful I think too. I might need to adjust my overflow box to the right level, so it stops in time... it was like 1/2 inch from the top of the sump this time. it didn't overflow it. The line to the external pump came off and the pump kept pumping but instead of to the return line it went on the floor. I am pretty much an idiot for thinking it would hold without a clamp- it was pretty tight- oh well.