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BioCube14
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 03:42 PM
I am living in a apt on the 1st floor I plan to move to a 2nd floor apt in a month or so wondering if a 60 gal cube 24x24x24 is too much to put on the 2nd floor? Anyone have a 2nd floor apt with a tank?

fishn
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 04:26 PM
depends on the flooring. When I was in MD I had a 110 with a 25 gal sump, but it was cement flooring

RayAllen
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 04:42 PM
Unless you have a cement floor Id go no bigger than 75-100g tank and personally id put it on a exterior wall where there is more strenth.

bronck83
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 04:43 PM
I have a 75 gallon with a 35 gallon sump & very heavy stand on 2nd floor apartment. My apt is about 2 yrs old, dunno about what the floor is built from though.

wwarriner
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 05:07 PM
I have a 40 breeder with a 25 gallon sump and its fine. Mine is along the common wall between the two apartments which is supposedly a load bearing wall. I've seen others with a 100+ with a huge sump before as well. Renter's insurance is definitely a must though, lol.

BioCube14
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 05:21 PM
so do you think i would be safe with a 60 gal? the apt im moving to is about 1 year old

Noober
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 05:47 PM
my floor upstairs is concrete and i have a 100 and a fifty gallon setup up here.

wwarriner
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 07:38 PM
I would say you are definitely fine with a 60 gallon so they won't freak out when maintenance comes in and sees a 100+ gallon saltwater aquarium in there!!! That's a good way to get kicked out, lol!

BioCube14
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 09:21 PM
haha i know what you mean...now that i think of it im guessing i will need a sump how many gal do sump usually run on a 60 gal tank? im guessing 20 gal? so for a grand total of about 80 gal worth of water

fishn
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 09:36 PM
I would say you are definitely fine with a 60 gallon so they won't freak out when maintenance comes in and sees a 100+ gallon saltwater aquarium in there!!! That's a good way to get kicked out, lol!


I never called in any work orders just so they didnt see the tank! LOL

Noober
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 09:50 PM
most mantinence men are sorta geeks, when it comes to fix it yourself type stuff, if you have some good diy on your tank and a very pretty display, most of them even if they arnt stoned will be like nice tank, hmm i wont tell the landlady.... well wait mabe it was my girlfriend that helped me get past that issue... rotfl

ErikH
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 10:24 PM
I have a 75 and my 48 upstairs. They both have 29's for sumps and the 75's has alot of rock in it.

apedroza
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 10:42 PM
I would also check to see if they allow water furniture. Some places now are only allowing certain sizes due to water damges. If they do a 60 would be no problem.

topsoil
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 10:48 PM
I think you'll be fine. I had a 55 gal with a 20 gal sump on a second floor apartment for 4 years (and it was an older apartment). Like mentioned above, I wouldn't go much more than 100 gal total.

BioCube14
Mon, 25th Aug 2008, 10:56 PM
sweet looks like my next setup will be a 60

Mr Cob
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 08:56 AM
Also, some apartment complexes only require that you carry renter's insurance which is a good thing to have regardless of the tank. You can get a small policy for like $15 amonth that covers up to $10k of your belongings in the event of theft or damage.

Many apartments do not care what you have if it's under 100gallon. I would suggest calling the office as an anonomous caller that is interested in renting and ask some questions about the property and slip in the "aquarium question". Just in case you get the answer you don't want and decide to break the rules.

Good luck,

I have had a 75, a 55, a 39, five 10's and one 20 in an apartment in the same room on the second floor. I thought of it as the same wieght as a large wife and husband in a king sized bed with a large solid wood dresser, large tv and two night stands. Never even thought of checking the flooring...would have been a good idea though. No problems though. I have lived in apartments that required renter's insurance for anything over 50gallons, other apartments that didn't care, and one that did not allow it at all under any circumstances.

prof
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 09:32 AM
I always love this question.

Water weights 8.3 lbs per gallon. So, 100g tanks will weigh 830lbs just in water. Stand will add another 50-100lbs, tank adds about 75lbs if it is glass. Rock and sand makes a minimal difference. Totaling about 1000lbs for a 100g tank.

Ok, this is the important math. Tank has about 48x18 inch footprint, 864 square inches. This is 1.15lb per square inch. I weigh about 175lb and my foot print is about 6x12, 72 square inches, 2.4lb per square inch.

I am not afraid to walk around in an apartment, are you? Apartments should hold just about any tank you can get into them. The catch is that most apartment complexes won't allow aquariums for fear of water damage. Structural damage is not a concern.

ErikH
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 09:56 AM
Dave, that was a great answer!!!!! I always tell people to think of bags of concrete for comparison.....

Does renters insurance cover water damages from aquariums specifically???? I have always been hesitant because I figure they can screw me around one way or another.

tony
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 10:08 AM
anyone in an apartment or rental house that dont have renters insurance deserves what they get. it is too cheap otherwise.

Mr Cob
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 10:09 AM
Does renters insurance cover water damages from aquariums specifically???? I have always been hesitant because I figure they can screw me around one way or another.

Mine covers accidental water damage including if my aquarium breaks and destroys the landlords hard wood floors or carpet minus my deductible. You would need to ask to verify...not sure if it's standard or not.

chapel210
Wed, 27th Aug 2008, 10:18 AM
I am living in a apt on the 1st floor I plan to move to a 2nd floor apt in a month or so wondering if a 60 gal cube 24x24x24 is too much to put on the 2nd floor? Anyone have a 2nd floor apt with a tank?

I have a 75 and a 45 upstairs. Maintenance usually come to admire them lol.