Need some ID opinions

[Mr_Cool]

I got two pics for you. I know they're not the best, but.....

1st: True Percs or Oscillaris? (Maybe one of each?)

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/Mr_Cool1/DSC00087.jpg



2nd: What type of anemone? BTA (without the bubble tips) or Long Tentacle? (It actually looks more maroonish in person. Under actinic lighting, the tips of the tentacles almost take on a pinkish hue.)

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/Mr_Cool1/anemone001.jpg

[Mr Cob]

I'm by no means an expert but from my experience I would say the clown in the foreground is "True" and the background is "False".

No comment on Anemone, well, actually I have a long tentacle anemone and the tentacles are more spread out on mine and yours does not look at all like mine. Check mine out: http://www.chriscamacho.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/crw_7588.jpg

I'm thinking you have an under nourished BTA? Is that possible?

[Jonthefishguy]

Your clowns are Ocellaris. Perculas have more distinctive black within the body. And your anemone looks to be long tentacle, but without a clear pic, hard to make out what exact species.

[Mr Cob]

Your clowns are Ocellaris. Perculas have more distinctive black within the body. And your anemone looks to be long tentacle, but without a clear pic, hard to make out what exact species.

His clown in the foreground looks the same as mine which was sold to me from Aquarium Designs as a true perc a couple of months ago. Check it: http://www.chriscamacho.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/crw_7599.jpg

[Jonthefishguy]

I am not telling you that you didnt get a true, however I know what a percula and ocellaris looks like and those are false (ocellaris).

[Mr Cob]

I am not telling you that you didnt get a true, however I know what a percula and ocellaris looks like and those are false (ocellaris).

Well, I was asking you what you think after looking at mine too?

[apedroza]

Look like Ocellaris to me!!! Here are some comparison pics http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/detailed_image.cfm?pCatId=137
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/detailed_image.cfm?pCatId=142
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Definitely darker bands around the white stripes. Also the first spine of the dorsal fin is taller in Ocellaris than in true percs.

[Jonthefishguy]

Yours is a Ocellaris as well.

[ErikH]

look like ocellaris to me...

[Mr_Cool]

I've looked all over the net, and I can't find an anemone that looks like mine. I'll try to get a better pic tomorrow. I do know that the tentacles on my other anemone are thicker, and there is much more space around the mouth as far as tentacles go. This one has tentacles pretty darn close to the mouth. Actually, I have a hard time finding the mouth, which is not normal for a long tentacle. I'm thinking it's a bubble tip w/out the bubbles on the tips.

Still not too sure about the clowns. Thanks for the opinions, though.

[drgnbttrfly]

ocellaris

Green BTA...looks just like my larger ones its kind of brown but when it retracts does it look sort of green and maybe have pink dots on the tips? Mine don't always bubble...the longer I have had mine the better they do as they seem to get healthier. Especially under good lighting.

[Mr Cob]

Question for everyone.

Does a true have the dark markings at a juvenile age?

[Jonthefishguy]

Perculas and Ocellaris still have distiguishing markings that can still seperate the two species from one another. Perculas black markings become more and more defined as they get older, but they are still more defined than the ocellaris at any age.

[Mr Cob]

Perculas and Ocellaris still have distiguishing markings that can still seperate the two species from one another. Perculas black markings become more and more defined as they get older, but they are still more defined than the ocellaris at any age.

Thanks.

See....my clown was sold to me as a Percula. But that doesn't tell me anything because it could also be an Ocellaris because a False Percula IS an Ocellaris, but a Percula can be True or False but people say "Percula" but that doesn't clarify anything. The stores should say True Percula or False Percula. It's obvious if they say Ocellaris that it's a false percula. But if they just say Percula then there is confusion. Maybe they didn't know what it was so they just labeled It a "Percula"...well that's like saying it's a Clown.

Anyways......goodnight.:angel:

[Mr Cob]

Seems like it can be tricky on some to identify. Such as this example....I bet all of you would have said this was an ocellaris or False Percula...???

http://animal-world.com/encyclo/marine/clowns/truepercula.php

Maybe this is the only True way to tell: "The difference is in the number of dorsal spines (11 for a ocellaris, and 10 or 9 for a percula), the anterior part of the dorsal fins is taller in a ocellaris..."

But, then again how accurate is the site I just referenced?

[Jonthefishguy]

Percula is a percula and Ocellaris is an ocellaris. The word false is just something added by people to label it a False Percula. So, technically when you go to a petshop and ask for a Percula clownfish, they should go straight to a True and not a false as the scientific names for both are straight forward. Amphiprion Ocellaris / Amphiprion Percula

[Jonthefishguy]

No I would have called it a True as the black marking is more distinguishable compared to a False. Trues have more black (thicker lines) than the false do. The counting of spines is not always accurate.

[Mr Cob]

Percula is a percula and Ocellaris is an ocellaris. The word false is just something added by people to label it a False Percula. So, technically when you go to a petshop and ask for a Percula clownfish, they should go straight to a True and not a false as the scientific names for both are straight forward. Amphiprion Ocellaris / Amphiprion Percula

That makes sense....so True and False should have never been used.

[Mr Cob]

No I would have called it a True as the black marking is more distinguishable compared to a False. Trues have more black (thicker lines) than the false do. The counting of spines is not always accurate.

Well this is exactly how mine looks and same for Mr Cools clown in the foreground I think....

So hard to tell from pics.

[apedroza]

Actually spines are probably more of a definitive way to distinguish the 2. Some ocellaris do come in the onyx color pattern which can throw off the hole dark stripe theory.

[lt1z28]

Ocellaris and maybe Long Tentacle Anemone

[clamgal]

ocellaris