purple upness

[bigmoe21]

I know the purple up bottle says not to add more than once a day, but my tumpets dont look fat like they use to before, so is it tremendously absolutely detrimental if i add extra purple up? or is it because theres too much iodine/iodide in my tank?
I have a 29g, pc lighting, bak pak, and two hang on back filters.
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[bigmoe21]

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[bigmoe21]

that is what they use to look like..ill go take a pic of what they look like now

[bigmoe21]

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this is them now, i just added purple up and last time was yesterday and everyday for the past 4 days

[BioCube14]

i dont think purple up can do harm

[apedroza]

Using too much can throw your alkalinity/ calcium balance off. Make sure you check both when adding. PU will cause your calcium to rise while lowering your alkalinity levels and will affect your pH. Are you dosing anything else?? I would recommend using B-ionic instead of the purple up.

[bigmoe21]

i put iodide, essential elements, stronitum, coral vite but nothing else for calcium and sometimes i add buffer, but only sometimes

[Texreefer]

Why are you adding all that stuff?,, are you testing for all those things? whats your goal with adding purple up?.. it has no value other than adding calcium

[copperband]

vitamin c helps corals

[bigmoe21]

i want the heads of the trumpets to be big like before, idk why i put all those things in... haha no i dont test but just put some in usually once a week or so like the bottle says. i started off using fiji gold to help coralline grow then i started to use purple up, thats why i add it.

[apedroza]

I used PU for a little while but didn't really notice that much difference. The use of B-ionic is when my coraline really took off. Not only does it help with calcium but it also has the Alkalinity buffer to go with it. Other than those I add magnesium and iodine once a week. I would definitely check your parameters that may be the reason your candy canes aren't opening up.

[alton]

I have been raising candy canes for about three years. In my tanks they are probably the most sensitive corals I have. If my water gets too clean they are the first corals to start looking bad. I have also kept a 29g for about ten years, first in my office and then I moved it to my home and used it for corals and new fish before adding them to my bigger tanks. To keep my 29 looking good I would simply do a 5 gallon water change once a week. If you take out the live rock, sand and corals you are left with about 20 gallons. So by doing 5 gallons you are basicly changing 25%. If you are topping off with Ro then you need to buffer it but that is the only additive I have ever used. If your candy are looking like they are starving your water might be too clean? As Tex said check your parameters before you add anything. One last word of thought 5 gallon water changes a week will cost you $8 a month. Additives and test kits will end up costing you $100's. We are in this hobby to have fun and enjoy not go broke(God I sound like my wife now I better quit) Hope everything work out.

[Fish4life]

try adding some carbon to clean up all those added chemicals. Add DT's (phytoplankton) to you water. your lps will love you for it. Also how old are your bulbs? Might be time to change.

cheers,

kurt

[erikharrison]

The rule is don't dose what you aren't testing for.

[Bill S]

Good one, Erik...

As a water changing nut like Alton, I go thru a bucket of salt about every 3 weeks. At $34 a bucket (from Drs F & S on sale), changing water is the CHEAPEST way to keep your chemistry in line.

I've never used PU, and would never use PU.

[bigmoe21]

ok. my bulbs ar 4 months old now, I use to do a water chane twice a week, 5% each time for 10% a week, but now i just try to do it once a week since school started up again and with work. the hang ons have carbon but i havent rinsed any of them for 3 weeks now so maybe i need to do that...and i need a new bottle of Dts i ran out. I just add stuff because i thought it was really "hard" to mess up when adding liquid additives. I know a water change replenishes them all though.

[Texreefer]

It is really EASY to mess up dosing all that stuff,, especially in a tank that small,, I have a 120gal sps tank with 180 total volume.... I dose kalk via a kalk reactor and calcium via a calcium reactor... my water changes take care of the rest ,,,, thats it!

[erikharrison]

I just add stuff because i thought it was really "hard" to mess up when adding liquid additives.

I think that is a very common misconception. Since you are doing 1 water change per week, are you doing the full 10%? What kind of lights are they? It sounds like you may be having issues just because of dosing. Try a big water change this weekend and let everything sit for a couple of days and see if it straightens out. If not, do another large water change the following week. If that does not help resolve it, you probably have another issue. What is your salinity at and have you verified it against someone elses? It could be caused by a salinity drop...

[brewercm]

Dude, you OD'd your trumpet corals.:cool:

Just kidding (well kind of). Like stated before, IF you are going to add chemicals test for them. That being said, I'm the anti additive guy, other than food, salt (water changes), and dripping kalk I don't add anything to my tank. My calcium load is low at this time so I don't even drip kalk at the moment.

[envy]

you OD'd your trumpet corals.:cool:



i like that never heard that one before.
cut back on so many chemicals and test your water for what you are dosing. bet some of your stuff might be off the chart or to low. bionic might be one of your better chemicals like apedroza stated or kalk for calcium. when i use chemicals in my tank i never go with the amount stated i always go half or 3/4 of what it says and don't buy every chemical people tell you cause it might have a good result in there thank and not so great on yours if anything do a little research on the chemical your buying before you buy it. also how much are you feeding might also sound like your overfeeding if your overdosing on chemicals. cut back cause since it is a small tank your asking for something to happen.

[bigmoe21]

how does it sound like im overfeeding? what is your tank like?

also how much are you feeding might also sound like your overfeeding if your overdosing on chemicals. cut back cause since it is a small tank your asking for something to happen.

[stoneroller]

If you don't have test kits, I would take a water sample to your favorite LFS and get them to test it for Cal, Alk, pH for free. Post back the results. Some can test for iodine too.

Good reading here on solving alk/Ca problems: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm

My trumpets are in full bloom under halides. Mid-range, not on the bottom. Could it be that trumpets don't do well under PCs? Just asking....

Good luck!

[envy]

you've told me you feed rods food, brine, dt, plus all those chemicals and you have told me your skimmer collect 1/4 of a cup or more in a day or two thats why i said that. my skimmer barely collects half an inch in three days or so (after dosing corallife trace elements[once a week]), phytoplan(once every three weeks), and coral-vite(once a week) and we have the same skimmer. all i feed is one cube of brine, one cube of blood worms, and a small piece of homemade food in one day and this is going into two tanks. these are my fish damsel, neon goby, two clowns, scooter blenny, royal gramma, lawnmower blenny(eats brine and bloodworms), Psychedelic Mandarinfish(eats brine and bloodworms), trigger, and puffer. you can tell which are in a different tank. my cleaner krew consist of 12 red and blue leg hermits, 1 emerald mithrax, a couple of snails that come out at night, 1 Nassarius snail, 1 Nerite Snail (hithiked) a buch of little snails that look like cerith(popped out of nowwhere), 1 Margarita Snai(hithiked) sandsifting seastar, and a brittle.list of corals go from zoas, shrooms(watermelon,red,orange,purple/blue, purple, canes, green stars, have a leather growin out of nowhere had shrooms grow out of nowhere have a frilly that is starting to split in half, two anemones, clove polyps, some rics(blue/green) and yumas (purple/green tipped, pink/white tipped). checked parameters(calcium, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph, salinity) the other day and everything was where it was suppose to be let me get out of school and go home to find my logs and i'll post those up if you like. anything else you want to know tank has been up for at least a year now.
go to maast meeting and i'll show you some older pics of tank(approx. 1month old pics have to take new one) from new things i just got
thank you Troy.

[envy]

petco can test your water only wont be able to check calcium or iodine

[apedroza]

[QUOTE=stoneroller;583032]My trumpets are in full bloom under halides. Mid-range, not on the bottom. Could it be that trumpets don't do well under PCs? Just asking....
[QUOTE]

I have trumpets in my little 3 gal at work and they are doing well, so I don't think it's a lighting issue. Just have the parameters of the water checked and we can move from there.

[Fish4life]

Sometimes you can do to much to your tank. maybe the cheapest solution is to buy a six pack of beer, sit back, and enjoy it. in other words, do nothing.

[bigmoe21]

i would buy a six pack, sit back and enjoy, but im only 20...maybe you could buy for me? haha jk...therefore i buy additives

Sometimes you can do to much to your tank. maybe the cheapest solution is to buy a six pack of beer, sit back, and enjoy it. in other words, do nothing.

[erikharrison]

Also, most people do not take into account their actual tank volume. Most do not take into account the LR or LS. You ever put in some live rock, and then have wet feet from a sump overflow? I did. :) This is another reason to test, dose, test. Get a set of accurate results and test every week until you get it down.

[Fish4life]

all this talk of testing is making my head hurt. don't test, don't add aditives. buy calcium and kalk reactors from ace and whammy a stone garden......it's as simple as 1,2,3 :)

[erikharrison]

unfortunately they dont cost 1, 2, or 3. Well, maybe if you add more zeros :)

[envy]

unfortunately they dont cost 1, 2, or 3. Well, maybe if you add more zeros :)

very true and not everyone has a sump or an overflow box. some people are on a budget

[Jynxgirl]

Heck, just drain a little water out, go get you a glass drill bit, and drill a whole in the back of that tank... walla, budget friendly overflow... and you can go get you a 5$ plastic container from the old walley world for your sump. :D Hee Heeeeee