gaping crocea

[tony]

gone? anything i can do to nurse it back?

the only thing i can figure out that "might" be wrong with it is i had it on the substrate which is apparantly a no-no with croceas. the irony of all this is i just read that last night and today is when he started looking ill. if this is why he is ill i will be a monkeys uncle since he has been happy for probly almost a year.

i did swap him with my derasa which was on a rock and is now in the substrate

ran all my tests last night to which adds more to the irony

nitrates = 10
nitrites = 0
ammonia = 0
ph = 8.2
calcium = 450

250w 12k runs 10 hrs/day and i dont have anything that would nip at it (2 clowns, 2 firefish, cleaner shrimp, harlequin shrimp)

havent tested alk yet no one seems to have the tests and i keep forgetting to order one online. everything else in my tank is doing great so i dont really suspect anything is wrong here either

[BigKGlen]

When you changed it's location, did it come out of the water? Did you need to 'burp' it?

[tony]

no, i didnt move it more than 6 inches just up on the next level of rock

i think its a goner though, only time will tell. i read a lot on clamsdirect's forum and a lot of people had similar problems. some recommended fresh water dips while some recommended leaving it alone, so who knows?

[rz1a]

i didnt see a test for ALK or magnesium, check the alk though

anything new to the tank?


woops, just read you havent gotten the alk kit yet. go to your lfs an pick up the API one for 6.99

[JimD]

Clams are sooo unpredictable and delicate, fine one day, gone the next, I have no idea what causes their spontanious demise. Ive had several that for no apparent reason, decided to go byebye, on the other hand, I have two Maxis that Ive had for like six years with no problems. Theyve endured some of the worst water, light and algae imanigable and theyre still with me, 'knock on wood', Ive just come to terms with it being part of a hobby where you have no guarantee on anything...

[rz1a]

Clams are sooo unpredictable and delicate, fine one day, gone the next, I have no idea what causes their spontanious demise.

yup :\

[Bill S]

He's probably looking for the Salifert kit. They are out of stock just about everywhere. I need one too...

[rz1a]

i would get the salifert since they keep having troubles with the kits. i use API and have its been doing well

also look for the test kits by Elos, i think marine depot is selling the ALK ones. I use their calcium kit and the API calcium comes really close to Elos

[tony]

Clams are sooo unpredictable and delicate, fine one day, gone the next, I have no idea what causes their spontanious demise. Ive had several that for no apparent reason, decided to go byebye, on the other hand, I have two Maxis that Ive had for like six years with no problems. Theyve endured some of the worst water, light and algae imanigable and theyre still with me, 'knock on wood', Ive just come to terms with it being part of a hobby where you have no guarantee on anything...

i was thinking the same thing. i was pretty sure i was doing everything right with the exception of it being on the sandbed but its been there and very happy for about 9 months or so


He's probably looking for the Salifert kit. They are out of stock just about everywhere. I need one too...

yep

[rz1a]

do you have pics of the clam? has the mantle been retracting into the shell?

if you think the clam is a goner, a fw dip might push it over the edge, but then again some people have had luck with giving them fw dips.. i had a bad experience with a clam that was showing signs of PM and the fw dip was all it needed for it to be a goner.

good luck

[tony]

he is gone

finally found a salifert alk test (AD had 1 in stock) and it says mine is at 3.5 meq/l

ive come to accept that it was just his time to go and already replaced him with another crocea

thanks for all of the help!!!

[JimD]

I have yet to understand fresh water dipping a clam, when you remove the clam from the water, its instinctive response is to close up tight, usually no mantle exposed. So basicly, youre dipping the shell, what good is that doing? Am I missing something here? It may help in the removal of any Pyramid snails that may be present but thats about it. Inform me.

[tony]

i dont think it closes up air/water tight, but like you i dont understand the freshwater dip theory either

[tony]

my 2nd crocea now did the same thing

yet my derasa is thriving

im stumped

[erikharrison]

Are your bulbs getting old enough to cause a drop in PAR?