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cavipower1
Fri, 23rd Nov 2007, 02:09 PM
okay i know that over flow boxes are notorious for losing siphon adn then thus flooding all of ur floor lol. would it be possible to inculde a small small pump in the over flow box to always keep water flowing through the u tubes that go over the tank? i have a flat back hex and i was told it is tempered so drilling i think it outta the question and i have an acrylic sump that was given to me and id really like to use it. is this my only option?

tony
Fri, 23rd Nov 2007, 05:49 PM
not sure if it will work with a hang on overflow but what about drilling a hole just below the water level you want to maintain? in this case as soon as the water gets below that hole it will cause a loss in suction therefore rendering the overflow non effective.

cavipower1
Fri, 23rd Nov 2007, 08:59 PM
yea that sounds pretty good ive heard some ppl use those over flow boxes without any hiccups maybe i should just try it out and see how it w*orks for me before i go and start messing around with drilling the tank though seeing as how it might damage it

prof
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 11:43 AM
The back of the tank is probably not tempered. You could drill the back.

caferacermike
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 12:26 PM
I've never, I mean NEVER had a single issue with my HOT overflow. nothing. Never had it back up, lose suction, dump water, nothing. I think it's important to get a good one as I've heard all these horror stories but never actually seen any problems. Make sure that the back of the overflow has a compartment deep enough to keep the ends of the U-tubes submersed after a power outage, doing this ensures the proper flow once the power returns. You can easily raise the water level in the back of any overflow using a little bit of PVC pipe or a simple thread fitting.

Again in 4 years I've not once had an issue with a dual 1" overflow and an Eheim 1262 return. I'll fight that statement to death.

cavipower1
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 02:20 PM
well i was looking aat some at alamo aquatics and texas tropical ill prolly get the single tube one seeing as my tank isnt that big any ways

PeeJ
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 02:27 PM
Neither have I. Only "issue" I encountered were flow limitations. A well maintained U-tube should work without issue.


I've never, I mean NEVER had a single issue with my HOT overflow. nothing. Never had it back up, lose suction, dump water, nothing. I think it's important to get a good one as I've heard all these horror stories but never actually seen any problems. Make sure that the back of the overflow has a compartment deep enough to keep the ends of the U-tubes submersed after a power outage, doing this ensures the proper flow once the power returns. You can easily raise the water level in the back of any overflow using a little bit of PVC pipe or a simple thread fitting.

Again in 4 years I've not once had an issue with a dual 1" overflow and an Eheim 1262 return. I'll fight that statement to death.

cavipower1
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 04:02 PM
i have a 32 gallon flat back hex would it be better to get two u tubes or just one?

MissT
Sun, 25th Nov 2007, 01:41 AM
depends on your return pump

caferacermike
Sun, 25th Nov 2007, 01:16 PM
Each 1" tube is regarded at 600GPH. You'd be fine with a single tube as 900GPH would be way to much flow through a sump. Just match your return pump somewhere between 300-700GPH and you should be fine. Determining what pump would be difficult until you know what you want from your sump/skimmer/fuge etc... I have extra sumps avail. They are mighty large and would not fit under your stand but if interested.

erikharrison
Sun, 25th Nov 2007, 02:15 PM
We had about 1 gallon get out of our display. I was messing with the overflow box, and caused it to lose suction. That should be the only time it will ever lose suction. As a fail-safe, I have my inlet for my return fairly close to the surface, so if it does lose suction, the tank can hold the excess, although I would lose a mag. I would much rather lose a mag than my carpet. :)

cavipower1
Sun, 25th Nov 2007, 10:20 PM
cool i guess ill just need find one in my price range

PeeJ
Sun, 25th Nov 2007, 10:38 PM
Alternatively, you could purchase a float switch and safe yourself on both counts.


We had about 1 gallon get out of our display. I was messing with the overflow box, and caused it to lose suction. That should be the only time it will ever lose suction. As a fail-safe, I have my inlet for my return fairly close to the surface, so if it does lose suction, the tank can hold the excess, although I would lose a mag. I would much rather lose a mag than my carpet. :)

cavipower1
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 01:54 AM
lol will one of those float switches from like a feed store do? lol dont know were else toget em

jl1199
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 02:40 AM
What brand is your hex tank because Have one that I am about to get drilled for a calfo and for the returns? My tank is an oceanic.

cavipower1
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 02:49 AM
wow i have no idea really to tell u the truth its kind of old i just resealed it cuz most of the silicone was peeeling off, so far so good

emac
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 01:19 PM
if your going to put an overflow on it and you want to make sure that nothing will overflow, why not just run a test case. like worst case type thing. oh and make sure you keep the return nozzle very close to the water lvl

cavipower1
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 01:45 PM
good idea thanks man, well i just aquired an overflow box i guess time to do some plumbing and get a pump and test it all out lol

cavipower1
Mon, 26th Nov 2007, 11:29 PM
the overflow that i got sits kinda low in my tank, can i cut some of it off to make it shorter? so it doesnt hang as low? i asked on nano reef but didnt really get an answer, thanks!Q

sharkbait29
Tue, 4th Dec 2007, 01:20 AM
how big is your tank and what brand of overflow do you have? I'm in the process of looking for a reliable one for my 180...