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goodiebag
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:21 PM
Does anyone have a proven method for getting rid of this cyano.
It seems like I siphon it out and the next minute it's back.
I have chemi-clean but do not realy want to use it.
75gallon
softies and fish
20gal sump pressure locking baffles
cpr bak-pak
marineland c-360 -removed bio balls running carbon in two trays
I've been reading lots of theories. just wondering who has had success with proven method.
thanks in advance.

erikharrison
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:40 PM
Have your water double checked. Phosphates and nitrates are a likely cause....

When was your last water change and how much was it?

erikharrison
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:45 PM
Oh yeah.... you need a bigger clean up crew anyway. :)

goodiebag
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:46 PM
I have changed out 35 gals in the last 3-4 weeks. I have a nice test kit all 0's
confirmed at AD. but I was going there anyways, I will bring a samp for the experts up there to test

mojo
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:55 PM
The only proven way of eliminating this bacterial infection is with good water quality and persistence. If you continue to do the things you are doing you will eventually beat it out. As far as the chemi-clean goes, I would recommend that you go ahead and use it. It's quite benign to the tank and it really does a good job of getting on top of the cyano, so that if/when it returns it may be easier to deal with.

JimD
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 02:56 PM
That skimmer is too small for that size tank.. You can try this in the mean time..

http://www.maast.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38903&highlight=easy+bak+pak+mod

If you decide to use the Chemi Clean, be sure to add additional oxygen to the water as it will deplete while treating.

goodiebag
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 04:20 PM
I'm constantly emptying the cup as it is. would this mod make it skim better or would it just collect faster?

JimD
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 04:35 PM
It would make the contents of the skimmate more consentrated, thus more effective. Even still, its too small for your tank regardless.

goodiebag
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 04:50 PM
I'm negotiating between the jebo from tate1 or erikharrson's old skimmer.


which do you think is better?

goodiebag
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 04:54 PM
performed home test and jason@AD confirmed water quality was optimal with a hint of low PH. PH was like 8.2-8.1. I will check again tomorrow and just buff it up if needed.

I also got me some 5 more redleg crabs with some good banded hermits on order.

tony
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 05:13 PM
i had a cyano farm until i started using chemiclean and more aggressive water changes. ive had zero since (over a year now)

MissT
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 05:38 PM
as already said, ChemiClean is a proven method. Blue Life's red Slime Control is a great product too, really easy to use... just make sure that if you are running carbon, you remove it, and shut off the skimmer overnight when you put the treatment in.

so-smrt
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 10:11 PM
battled cyano for months turned off my light for days cleaned he sand changed to water then my light died and so did the cyano.... then i fixed my light after using none but a window for weeks and back it came!!! just used chem clean. (with lots of airation) and it worked great! i definatly recommend it.

rz1a
Mon, 19th Nov 2007, 11:55 PM
doesnt this stuff also kill the beneficial bacteria??

rz1a
Wed, 21st Nov 2007, 07:45 PM
so if you do use chemiclean without crashing a tank, how would one go about using this on a nano?

MissT
Wed, 21st Nov 2007, 07:50 PM
just use the reccommended dose and you'll be fine. I know the Blue Life stuff is 1 scoop per 10 gallons so 12 g nano, just use 1 scoop, 24g, use 2.5 scoops. I can't remember the dosing on ChemiClean, but just follow the instructions and err a little on the conservative side if you're a bit nervous about it

rz1a
Wed, 21st Nov 2007, 09:11 PM
so both the blue life and the chemiclean work just as good? im kind of worried about trying this stuff because i have 4 clams and a pistol shrimp that i want to keep and wouldnt want this stuff to have some kind of negative affect on my tank. ive been thinking about doing this for a while but was holding out

i dont know the total volume of the tank, but what i go by when i dose alk, i usually put in the calculator that its 15 gallons

mojo
Wed, 21st Nov 2007, 09:24 PM
I can't attest to the blue life product, but I can tell you that I treated my former tank with Chemi-Clean several times with excellent cyanobacterial removal and no losses or even stress to my invertebrates.

Ed
Wed, 21st Nov 2007, 09:47 PM
I can't attest to the blue life product, but I can tell you that I treated my former tank with Chemi-Clean several times with excellent cyanobacterial removal and no losses or even stress to my invertebrates.

ditto.

MissT
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 02:07 AM
Never lost anything and haven't heard of anything lost with any of the Blue Life or ChemiClean I've sold. In this hobby, anytime you're using medicines, follow directions given and you'll be okay.

erikharrison
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 02:28 AM
mas flow Brad.

rz1a
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 09:57 AM
im going to have to try it out. so what do you do if you dont know the exact volume of water you have? i have a 28 gallon tank i bought from someone, and like i said earlier, i usually type in a calculator that its 15 gallons. should i go by that?

rz1a
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 10:27 AM
btw, what is it that the chemicals do exactly? do they target the cyano specifically or does it target all bacteria and stuff like i heard? and how does it not come back afterwards?

i started getting this problem as soon as i got the tank back from someone in san antonio. because i had to transfer the sand from the broken tank into another tank, i think it messed something up. no matter how much i feed, its still there. im setting up a sump in the coming week in order to start adding better equipment in there

goodiebag
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 01:18 PM
Jason at AD hooked me up with blue knucle hermies, the eat cyano. hopefully there is no triptophan in cyano. because they have their work cut out for them.
Erik: check out the flow on fishcam. I added koralia as well.
whoo-hoo

tony
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 08:30 PM
my blue legged hermits wont touch the stuff also more flow wont rid you of cyano

erikharrison
Thu, 22nd Nov 2007, 10:21 PM
Oh no, Brad and I have had conversations other than here :) I have been telling to him to add more flow since day 1. I had way too much food today, but I kicked the tripto in the butt!

crossxfire2
Sat, 24th Nov 2007, 01:42 AM
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