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ratboy
Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 10:17 AM
My 400 gallon reef thats what!!

(8:00 AM) I was getting ready to do some long overdue projects on my tank when I noticed a decent amount of salt creep on my right side return line. I wiped away the salt and nearly threw up when I saw what I thought to be a small crack. I got a flashlight and sure enough a small 2" crack running from the return hole to the back of the bottom pane with a decent drip running down the line!! First thing I did was clear the area of my son and called my brother in law (Richie @ Holey Mackeral Aquariums/Everclear transparency Refurb.) He grabbed his emergency trailer of equipment and headed right over.
(10:00 AM) We setup a 150 gallon agriculture tub next to the tank and started putting corals into the tub and the nearby 75 that I just bought last week from a friend and had running. We had most of the corals in the tub when we heard a wet sound and saw that the ghetto rigged plexi window covering an unused bulkhead hole was leaking!! Ahhhhhhhh #!&*^!! So we drained it down and pulled all the corals and put them back in the tank.
(1:00 PM) Back to Richies house to get a 8' diameter agri tub to put into my garage. This went much better and after another few hours we had the rock piled up on one side and the sand dumped into the tank (400 gallon deep sand bed - you do the math!). SO at this point the the tub was 1/2 full of water and the rock and sand were in there but what a soupy mess! Fortunately Ritchie was packing a 2 hp pool pump hooked up to a 5 micro pleated filter. Within 1 hour you could see the fish and bottom and after 2 it looked pretty darn good. By dinner time I was putting my corals into the tub and everything was safe with things that should be wet, wet and dry, dry.
(8:00 PM) After helping my wife with the kids (4 y.o and 1 month old -- oh yes this was quite a convenient time for a marathon fish day!) I took to cleaning up as much of the mess as I could. I squeezed the tank inside and wet dry'ed out the remaining sand and water.
(2:00 AM) Everything is cleaned up and hopefully it wont smell in there after my wife opens a window today.


The only water that hit the floor was what came out of the 150 tub (that was the real kick in the jewels) so I consider myself lucky. The crack happened in of course the weakest part of the tank. The bottom is 2 ply 3/4" glass but the bulkheads are countersunk through the first ply. The crack ran from the hole to the back and since there was no first layer it dripped... The damage to the tank is minor but logistics with 2 ton tank are greatly different from all but a few of the tanks I've encountered. Options ranging from contacting Oceanic for repair (not likely since company reorg), a new acrylic tank (holey $$$$!) or get out of the big tank game (still cost hundreds of $$) . None of those options were appealing since my whole family loves the tank and the cabinetry matches our other furniture perfectly. So Richie and I are going to take this as an opportunity to make some changes and cover the bottom and back in fiberglass. Not only will this repair the leak but I can upgrade plumbing sizes, move sumps outside of the room, and build a huge plywood and fiberglass sump. I was prepping to build a fiberglass tank before I bought this one so the only diff is I have everything squared up and I have a preset size to work with. Other plans include closed loop style jets hidden in wall/bottom, 1/2 length of tank calfo overflow... Watch the for sale forum for the 75 I bought recently and a bunch of other hardware and possibly frags (zoos mostly) to finance my newest project (and buy my wife something nice )!!

From this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/eswansiger/fulltank_4982.jpg

To this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/eswansiger/DCP_5524.jpg
(Im even thinking about using the engine lift to hold my lights! And I'll bet I have the only tank in town with an intake and fuel injectors (car parts on bench to right...)

Via this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/eswansiger/DCP_5515.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/eswansiger/DCP_5518.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/eswansiger/DCP_5522.jpg

klondike4001
Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 10:58 AM
Ditto on the rebuild the way I? figure it you were the lucky one, imagine a leak in the middle of the nights, seen that once, lucky it was on the bottom floor. LMK what zoas you sell, I'm always in the market!

hobogato
Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 11:14 AM
man, that is scary - glad things worked out as well as they did!

ratboy
Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 11:29 AM
Thanks everyone, I do feel pretty fortunate and I would have been in a real bad spot without professional equipment. What a hobby, huh?

LoneStar
Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 11:30 AM
Wow talk about a LONG DAY. Good thing you are not replacing the floor too ;)

fishypets
Wed, 15th Nov 2006, 11:03 PM
I can say I know how you feel. The upside the the downside is you will get to upgrade equipment :D Which always makes me smile

ratboy
Thu, 16th Nov 2006, 10:37 AM
Yea, Im starting to look forward to making some needed changes. The thing is my fish and corals all look very happy in the 8' diameter tub. If I had serious cash I would get a 8' diameter acrylic cylinder about 2.5" tall and have it so you could look down on it or thru the side.

ratboy
Thu, 16th Nov 2006, 11:15 AM
BTW Fishypets, I feel for you big time man. Your pictures gave me a now familiar sickened feeling. Good luck with your tank resurection!

Wryknow
Thu, 16th Nov 2006, 11:26 AM
How old was your tank? Was it an Oceanic custom build? What a nightmare!

ratboy
Thu, 16th Nov 2006, 11:33 AM
The tank is ~ 10 years old and Ive had it for 2. It was a custom tank Oceanic built for Sean Elliot when he played for the spurs that I purchased from the second owner. Now that the tank is pretty well cleaned up I can see the only damage is the small 2" crack from the return bulkhead hole. I working on my plans for changes and sealing off the room and getting the family out of the house for 2 days so I can get all my fiberglassing work done without having to worry about the fumes. I dont think Im gonna move filtration outside but I am going to build an additional sump to place inline with my current one. Pictures will be posted once progress starts, probably after Christmas with plans for my animals to be out of the garage by spring.

But yes it was and still is a nightmare!!!

--erik

Wryknow
Fri, 17th Nov 2006, 12:02 PM
Silly question, but doesn't Oceanic have a lifetime tank warranty?

JeremyGlen
Fri, 17th Nov 2006, 12:58 PM
Oceanic has an extended warrenty of 10 years on their standard tanks as long as it is used with an Oceanic stand. I'm not too sure about the custom jobs.

ratboy
Fri, 17th Nov 2006, 01:03 PM
I sent oceanic an email but needless to say I havent heard back from them. I really dont expect a favorable response since 1) Im not the original owner 2) Im not sure who made the square tube steel stand 3) Oceanic isnt the same company it was 10+ years ago and I doubt they will even offer repair services even if I pay for it (and Im sure it'd be insane!!). It would cost well over 1000$ just to have it shipped back and forth between my home and oceanic.

such is the life of a large tank owner....