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reefguy210
Tue, 7th Nov 2006, 06:35 PM
ive got the linkia in a quarantine tank that is bare bottom, 3 pieces of live rock are in it. i checked the tank parameters, everything checks out fine (ph is 8.1, no traces of ammonia, nitrites and nitrates, temp is 76F). should i test for something else?

reefguy210
Tue, 7th Nov 2006, 07:58 PM
hes still clinging to the wall and hasnt really moved all day. is this stuff bad?

Ping
Tue, 7th Nov 2006, 11:14 PM
Since no one else seems to know yet. Could it be the stomach? I have heard of some type of sea creatures expelling thier stomachs. Just a guess. Or is this the top we are looking at.

demodiki
Wed, 8th Nov 2006, 12:36 AM
No, he is disintegrating. I've seen it before :(

Jynxgirl
Wed, 8th Nov 2006, 01:08 PM
I agree. My linkia started to expel his insides but alot slower. It took him about two weeks to die after the first signs like this. Sorry.

reefguy210
Thu, 9th Nov 2006, 10:29 PM
aw are you serious?! i heard linkias are finnecky (did i spell that right?).


should i remove it from the tank now and get it over with?

reefguy210
Thu, 9th Nov 2006, 10:30 PM
jynxgirl, its been like this for about 2 weeks now, i noticed it about that long ago, but lately its been coming out. more recently, its just stuck to that one place...

Viet-Tin
Thu, 9th Nov 2006, 11:08 PM
I had something like that with my linkia multiflora. I had small black worms inside its body. The body began melting within a few days before I removed it.

reefguy210
Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 12:02 AM
well, going on what you guys said, im gonna move it to a completely empty tank and see how it does over the next couple of days/weeks. i really dont want to give up on it, but im afraid with all the replies im getting, that it may be too late :(

Jynxgirl
Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 12:04 AM
I dont think I would move it. They are already very sensitive to changes in their environment. I would leave it where it is and just watch the tank every few hours. When mine fell off the glass, that is when I took him out. I held out hope too.

reefguy210
Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 02:32 AM
well, i had already put it in the spare tank. it started moving up the wall almost immediatly. i did a small water change in both tanks before i moved it. im crossing my fingers that it doesnt disentigrate

Instar
Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 10:27 AM
Linkia starfish have extremely allergic reactions to human pheromes (skin oils). If you or any of the people involved in collecting, bagging or shipping it touched it with bare hands, it is almost guarenteed to have a fatal or near fatal reaction. If it does disintegrate into pieces and those pieces don't completely disintegrate, the little frags will grow into new starfish.

On top of this, they can become infected from salinity shock, a very easy thing to accomplish with them. This can open up wounds in the ends of their legs for bacteria that can completely destroy them.

The bottom line for Linkia stars: Drip acclimate and temperature acclimate very carefully, slowly and never, ever touch one without clean gloves on. They are very allergic to humans.

jroescher
Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 09:50 PM
those pieces don't completely disintegrate, the little frags will grow into new starfish


So how would one go about fragging one and keep it from getting infected?

reefguy210
Sat, 11th Nov 2006, 06:22 PM
i drip-acclimated it when i got it. i pick it up with nets that have been laid out to dry for hours at an end. i dont put my hands in my tanks unless my pinchers are broke. as of today, its in my empty tank with a powerhead, filter and sand and it hasnt disentigrated anymore. the stuff that the picture shows has gone, and the linkia looks healthy despite whats happening.

Instar
Sat, 11th Nov 2006, 09:18 PM
So how would one go about fragging one and keep it from getting infected?

A sure method? I haven't tried it, but, in a tank that is balanced and well established, in theory at least, a leg cut off leg would grow back and the leg would grow a new animal. Some stars need a part of the central body attached to the leg to do this. If it is healthy to start with, then they should be able to fight off any infection and grow back. I cut a sand sifter star on purpose that was already messed up from salinity shock at the dealers and I tried to save it this way. Probably should have tried a dip of some kind because cutting didn't work. If you did it, you might need a dip for the cut end and for that I have no idea what dip might work and not kill the star.

Your linkia may have had membranes near breaching in reaction to all the moving and shipping. Shipping is very stressful, they get chilled in the air and the pressure changes radically. Sounds like it may recover by what you said.

reefguy210
Sun, 12th Nov 2006, 07:58 AM
well, more of that stuff started to come out, and when i barely brushed it with a net (was picking up a snail that kept falling, dont ask), it fell off the wall. so, i figure its almost at its end :(

im going to remove it and put it in a rubber maid tub with a powerhead, filter and a heater and see if it improves at all.