POLL Nano Forum

[MattK]

Can we add a forum dedicated to nano tanks? Most of the talk on MAAST is about larger tanks and some of the info does not apply to nanos. Yes, I can go to nanoreef.com but the site is a little crowded. Besides, I like to talk to local people, and since we're updating the site anyways it would be easy to add.

So, what do you think?

[Darth-Tater]

A nano forum sounds good to me since I am trying to set up a 12 gallon at school along with my 40. Sounds like a good idea Matt

David

[NaCl_H2O]

"Nano Forum"? ... would that be a forum using really small font sizes and itty-bitty Avatars :P

Let's see what the interest is then we could put it on the list for stuff to do on the new site!

[BIGBIRD123]

I believe it would be a good idea. I don't have one of the "lil Perky" tanks but I think it would be good for the ones that do.

Steve

[weizer896]

I like the idea :D I need all the help I can get :lol

[chrismikea]

iam with adding a nano forum. since i do keep and have kept alot of nanos before

[MattK]

"Nano Forum"? ... would that be a forum using really small font sizes and itty-bitty Avatars :P

Yea, and can only be accessed by midgets, I mean "Little People".

[Darth-Tater]

Would this font be too Big or is this size better

:lol

Just needed a laugh

David

[MattK]

I said Nano Forum not Giganto Forum

Needed a laugh too!

[Jimnorris]

I would like a nano forum also.
Jim

[blueboy]

that would be cool. there deffinately is a different approach with nanos, a dedicated forum seems like a good idea. maybe someone would get inspired and buy my sweet 18G i'm trying to sell.

[MattK]

Remember to vote!

[falcondob]

Nano forum is a great idea! Lots of people have them and lots more want to start them.

[MattK]

Maybe that could be an online raffle item. A Nano Cube 12gDX?

[MattK]

I think it might be official. There is some interest in this. Except for 4 people.

[cbianco]

I'm all for the nano forum. I could not possibly see how it could hurt. Considering I have a nano myself, a new nano forum could help me quite a bit! :)

Christopher

[MattK]

So, can we get this forum added?

[MattK]

Anymore last minute voters?

[cbianco]

So when is the mighty "Nano" forum going to be added to the list? Us little tank guys need love too! :)

But seriously, the administration should add this forum. It Couldn't hurt.

Christopher

[NaCl_H2O]

Maybe after we switch over to the new software???

[cbianco]

^^ :) ^^

[MattK]

We have some new faces around the board and I thought they could add their opinions to this topic.

[Flobex]

yea! we sould deffinetly add a nano forum!! that would help IMMENSLEY

[jroescher]

I vote Yes for the forum.

I'm curious as to why the 4 poeple don't think we should have one?

[hobogato]

i think it is a good idea.

[Darth-Tater]

As a new owner of aan auqapod 24 along with the new stand that Ace built, I vote yes again :D


DT

[Richard]

I'm curious as to why the 4 poeple don't think we should have one?


I can't speak for the first three but I am the 4th no vote. I voted no because it was a blow out and I felt the first three people were probably feeling lonely and I felt bad for them. I was pretty sure they were big Mondale supporters and were thinking "not again" so I thought I'd help them out a little.

[SuperXdude]

I don't have a nano and probably never will, but since nano tanks have their own issues, why not?


SuperXdude

[gjuarez]

I vote yes. Lets go for it.

[Bill S]

I agree with Richard. "Dewey WINS!".

[MattK]

Maybe some don't care to have a Nano Forum but I do, and I'm having a hard time getting an answer from anyone. It's been almost 3 months and no one has even brought it up at a BOD meeting. I'm not trying to be a thorn in anyone's side but I won't quit.

Even though it may be a blow out, and 89% (was 90% before people started being cute) of the people want it, it STILL has to be discussed. I keep getting "Maybe after the new software is installed" "too many specialty forums" "it will divide everything up too much and no one will see your question". I'm not asking for 20 different forums, just one that would make sense to add. I personally think the poll speaks for its self, and there is nothing to discuss.

I can understand adding it now doesn't make sense, but adding it WITH the new software does. What doesn't make sense is waiting until after the new software is installed, then taking another poll and bla bla bla. Make a decision, go to your hidden BOD forum and take a vote between yourselves. It can't take that long.

Give the 43 of us our Nano Forum.

[Bill S]

Matt, my apologies - I didn't mean to trivialize something that's important to you.

With that said, here's what drives me nuts using forums with a BUNCH of sub forums. The more you break up into SIG, the smaller your pool of contributors. Even though I don't have a nano, I certainly enjoy reading & participating in nano discussions. Why would you want to exclude me from participating? What's next, "Mega tanks", "Lionfish and rattlesnakes"? Also, if for example you have a nitrate question, do you post it in the nano forum, or in general reefkeeping, or in emergency?

In addition, MOST regular Forum users use the "new posts" button on Forums. That gives them a list of anything that's happened since they last logged on. Personally, I like the way things are set up. But, that's just me.

[cbianco]

Matt I'm with you!

Us little tank guys need some personalized attention. Having our own forum would help to gather information regarding our smaller tanks in one localized area. I find it more satisfying when I can go to one area (at a bulletin board) and find specific information.

I can certainly appreciate the hard work and dedication put into the larger tanks here on the board but we have to remember that the smaller tanks take just as much work.


...Even though I don't have a nano, I certainly enjoy reading & participating in nano discussions. Why would you want to exclude me from participating?...

Bill, let me assure you that we would appreciate anything you could add to a conversation on nano tanks! We would not exclude you from participating, that would be a personal choice.

Christopher

[JeremyGlen]

If you have a "nano" forum, it does not exclude you from reading and participating.

I feel that there should be a little seperation since there is a growing popularity of "nano" and "micro" tanks in the industry. I was on one site that people were displaying their 1/2g and 1g nanos and it was awesome. In this forum, a thread like that would get lost.

Another point, I am tired of people who have never owned a nano tank trying to give advise that works for large tanks. There are just some techniques that won't work for a small tank. Those of us who have small tanks can talk and share experiences in a forum that is made for it. Everyone else can read and learn and maybe, just maybe, get interested enough to try the challenge of start a tiny tank.

[MattK]

Even though I don't have a nano, I certainly enjoy reading & participating in nano discussions. Why would you want to exclude me from participating? What's next, "Mega tanks", "Lionfish and rattlesnakes"?


First, I'm not excluding anyone. I sorry you feel you cannot participate in a Nano Forum because you don't have one. Also, just to make things clear, I never said anything close to that.

Second, there are basically two category of tanks based on size. A tank which would be over ~30g, and a Nano which could be divided into Nanos, Picos and Micros, but I'm not asking for that. There is a lot of talk about equipment or supplies that someone who has a nano doesn't need. I still read and learn from it but it has nothing to do with a nano.

Finally, almost every other site has a Nano Forum. Yes, some of these sites get crazy with sub forums but I don't think this one forum addition is an unreasonable request.

If you want a "Mega Tank Forum" or a "Rattlesnake Forum", post a poll and see if people agree. I don't think they will because it doesn't make sense. I guess you were making a comparison and what you're saying is that a Nano Forum doesn't make sense. I think it does and I have the poll to prove it.

Give the 47 of us our Nano Forum.

[Bill S]

Jeremy - you made me laugh. I've always been a small tank guy. While I've had this much "gallonage" (like that's a word) before - as a teenager I worked in a LFS and cracked tanks were cheap and easy to fix - I've never had big tanks. My 55, that's about 3 years old, was the biggest tank I ever had. And I've been doing this (saltwater) over 35 years.

[MattK]

When is the next BOD meeting?

[Darth-Tater]

I guess the nano forum isn't important. I bet if it was a group order of lets say................red leg hermit crabs there would be a response. When is the net BOD meeting and are we invited to address the issue of a nano forum? I know that no club information is discussed when we get together at a club meeting each month. Even PTA's at school are required to talk business at the monthly PTA meeting.

David

David

[Jeff]

they always ask " does anybody have any questions " at every meeting, but most of the time no one says anything. i am nuetral about a nano forum, my first tank was a 20 gl tall, but it is interesting to see where this thread is going.

[Darth-Tater]

The thread is going no where. Like Matt said since April we have been kicking this can here and there. Oh well it is time to stop watching this thread.

DT

[Isis]

I know that the MARSH members love it. We have a quite a bit of members with nanos, so they like to have an area where they can ask a question regarding their type of aquarium. IMO, there is no reason not to have it. People who want to utilize it, will do so. It is like having a Fish Only section, or SPS, or LPS or Anemone sections, they may not make sense to those who won't use it, but it will to those who will.

[brewercm]

Gotta love it when your system starts acting up at work. :D

Please note that this has been addressed in the Directors forum and is being discussed along with other changes that have been suggested. Also understand that we do not have a full time, dedicated web maintenance person. This has also been in discussion about getting someone that is more available to the club for web maintenance. I understand your frustration with the speed that things happen on this site, but unlike some of the other clubs/sites that are out there we don't have the same sort of involvement. Our members have made it clear that a majority don't look at this as a club but just a website to get cheap and free stuff. The addition of a Nano Forum has been received with very positive feedback. Please don’t think that the BOD members and the officers appointed are just sitting around not worrying about your concerns. We are like most everybody else on this site. We most all have jobs and family that must come first or this doesn’t even exist. At least that is the way it is in my world.

As for the question of when the next BOD meeting is. It has not been set but I believe it should be next month, I will ask this question because it hasn't been asked yet as far as I’m aware. There are several changes that are in the process of being worked that will make improvements to the website. Please be patient with us, and know that we are working on these issues and they are not falling on deaf ears. These are all important issues (more so when they directly impact you as the user), and I thought these have been addressed, but from this thread it appears that the answers to the public have not been sufficient.

I hope this answers some questions, although it doesn’t give any closure to any of the questions I want everyone to know that these are works being discussed or in progress.

Now please don’t hang me.
:unsure

[cbianco]

I guess the nano forum isn't important.

Unfortunately, this seemes to be the general consensus among the BOD here at MAAST. This issue is ignored repeatedly. Yes, having a nano forum is just that important to us.


I know that no club information is discussed when we get together at a club meeting each month.

Not only is club information neglected at the meeting, there has been no financial information posted here on the forums in quite a while (since Feb.).

We are not trying to be a thorn in anyones side. This is one step towards expanding the club, expecially since it seems that nothing else is being done. I think this step would be a great one (along with 54 other people). Give the people what they want.

Christopher

P.S. This post is not meant to disrespect anyone, only jump start the brains of my fellow club members.

[MattK]

So, has there been a BOD meeting yet?

[Darth-Tater]

I keep scanning the sky for smoke signals, but I have not seen any yet. Looks like another month w/o a decision.

David

[MattK]

Got my vote. I think its a great idea.

Welcome aboard!

[Darth-Tater]

This could lead to other forums later down the road. Im a big fan of FOWLR and Aggressive tanks ;)

Oh man don't go there. If They have a tank like that it will happen fast & if they don't it will die a slow agonizing death to be kicked around for the better part of a year before they say nay.



DT

[JimD]

Whos "they"?

[MattK]

They = Da man keepin' us down. :P

[MattK]

So, has there been a BOD meeting yet?

???

[klondike4001]

Yuo've got my vote, the only thing I own are nanos.....

[Darth-Tater]

Haven't we figured this out yet. They don't care about a nano forum. Heck we can't even update the president of MAAST. But................. we have money in the bank

[MattK]

I

Haven't we figured this out yet. They don't care about a nano forum.

I know, but they will eventually get tired of seeing this on the top 10 and post something. :(

Cliff has been a great help and I think he cares to see what members are interested in, but I would like to hear from some of the other BODs. There have been a few BODs that said they thinks it's a good idea but it seems Gary gave up on looking at this thread. <_<

Oh well, I guess I'll be a thorn in their side. :P

[villjr]

Keep on them Matt. I think a nano forum is good also. How's the 30 gallon coming and the nanocube?

[klondike4001]

it needs done, I'm about to start my 3rd nano.....

[MattK]

Keep on them Matt. I think a nano forum is good also. How's the 30 gallon coming and the nanocube?

Thanks Vill. The 30g is getting over grown already. I'm starting on the new stand and canopy this week. Then I have to move everything to the living room.

I'm taking down the Nanocube for now. I need new bulbs and plan on upgrading the lights in it. So, I'm gonna use what I have in there now to get my fuge up and going. Oh yea, I'm also converting a 30g tank to a fuge this week. I'll set the cube back up in a month or so when I get the light upgrade kit for it.

[Brett Wilson]

Speaking of the 30g cube, I've found a 250DE MH to be a great light for it. (running a pretty blue bulb)... just thought i'd throw that out there since you mentioned lighting a 30g.

[z28pwr]

So what consitutes a NANO now a days, before it used to be a 10 gallon tank or smaller was considered a NANO tank and now I keep hearing people calling 37 gallon tanks NANO tanks so what's the limit of a NANO tank in this day in age?

[MattK]

Speaking of the 30g cube, I've found a 250DE MH to be a great light for it. (running a pretty blue bulb)... just thought i'd throw that out there since you mentioned lighting a 30g.

I don't have a 30g cube, I have a 30g long and a 12g Nanocube. The lights are for the 12g Nanocube. I have some picked out that I want from NanoCustoms.com just can't afford them right now.



So what consitutes a NANO now a days, before it used to be a 10 gallon tank or smaller was considered a NANO tank and now I keep hearing people calling 37 gallon tanks NANO tanks so what's the limit of a NANO tank in this day in age?

I always considered 30g and under to be a Nano, 5g and under to be a pico, and 1g and under to be a micro. I don't know if there is a standard but this is what I have seen.

[SBreef]

Haven't we figured this out yet. They don't care about a nano forum.

YES WE DO CARE!!
As most of you know, that as soon as some issues with us getting a new server or service, MAAST will be changing over to new software. And once that is done, there will be a Nano Forum.

[MattK]

there will be a Nano Forum.

I'm breaking out the Champagne now! Oh wait, it's 10:30am....I'll wait til 11.

When did y'all decide this?

[klondike4001]

When should we expect to see it...

[MattK]

When should we expect to see it...

Good question Jonathan

[JimD]

When should we expect to see it...

Good question Jonathan

Probably sometime in the future. That would be my guess.

[NaCl_H2O]

I'm not online much anymore, but saw this thread come back to life. This and many other changes are waiting on the migration of software to a new server & software platform. The previous WebMaster/Admin is mostly MIA - I know the BOD is seeking a new member to take over this role, but the migration still requires the previous Admin.

Send Gary or another BOD a PM if you want the job!

[klondike4001]

Since there's no nano forum yet I figure why not use this thread. I've got my 24 g JBJ NC and I was thinking of adding a 10-15g sump (fuge and nice deep sand bed for extra nitrate removal). Has anyone tried this? I figure it'll help with cooling issues as well, I currently use a little clip on fan on my NC and during the course of a day I can drop the temp up to 6 degrees. My plan is to add a 150-175W MH this summer and with the extra gallons and the fan I hope to alleviate the need for a chiller. Let me know what ya'll think.

Thanks,

[MattK]

I've thought about that myself. The only thing standing in my way is how to get the water to drain to the sump. I don't care for siphons, I think it's a disaster waiting to happen. I would rather drill the tank but it has been set-up for over a year and didn't feel like tearing it down.

I wanted to build a stand which would hold two JBJ 12g tanks, one on top of the other. The top one would be the display and the bottom would be the sump. I was planning on having HD drawer guides so I could slide the tanks out to do maintenance and bolting the stand to the floor for stability.

How would you set yours up?

[jupiterbunny]

A nano forum would be great! I vote yes!

[klondike4001]

For the time being I've got it on a s stank. I think I'm going to either build a stand or buy the one with the door (so I can hide a 10 gal.). As for draining to the sump I was thinking siphoning somehow, maybe a pump system? It's still very much a work in progress.

[apedroza]

I would like one also

[LoneStar]

I would like to see one. Especially since I'm going to a nano :)

[klondike4001]

For now I'm going to replace the stock fans with evercool's. Everything will be in planning stages until either christmas break or next summer.