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Marlin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 11:41 AM
I'm looking at getting a chiller for my reef tank. It's a 77 gallon Oceanic with a 30 gal refugium/sump. I need to bring the temperature down 4 to 5 degrees during the peak lighting period (about 4 hours).
I'm considering the Artica Titanium 1/10 HP or the Pacific Coast 1/10 HP. Has anyone had any experience with either of these and/or any recommendation of something better?
Rick
Thunderkat
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 12:00 PM
My tank is close to a window so I just stuck a window AC unit in there and have it blowing on my tank. :lol
abe77901
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 12:18 PM
I use the artica 1/10 on my 100 gallon with a 30 gallon sump/fuge and it does a good job.
Marlin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 12:23 PM
Unfortunately, I can not do that. The room temp is OK. It's just that I have 2 - 250 W MH and 2-100 W VHO actinics on during peak light periods. The canopy has 2- 4" fans on whenever the lights are on. Water temperature sometimes hits 85 degrees. What is more concerning in the temp swing from night to peak lighting hours- 79 to 85 degrees.
Rick
schoeplein
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 12:46 PM
I'd simply suggest mounting a fan in your setup. A simple fan or two will help keep everything from going over 82°. You may also consider, if possible, raising your MH higher up in your canopy.
Chillers, imo, are just way to expensive for practical uses.
Marlin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 01:27 PM
I have 2 - 4" fans and the MH's are 12 " off the water.
Rick
schoeplein
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 01:30 PM
Yipes! What about your VHO? Are they also elevated?
Beckmola24
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 01:57 PM
I've heard GREAT things about the Pacific Coast Imports chiller. It has a built in controller.. I actually called PCI myself and asked a few questions and their customer service was excellent. I will be getting a 1/2 HP PC chiller for my future 227g. HTH!
Marlin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 02:22 PM
Yes, the VHO's are about 10" off the water.
From everything I've read and heard so far, the Pacific Coast chillers are very good. One thing I'm going to try before I buy anything is to make a larger opening in the back of the canopy to let more air in.
Rick
mathias
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 02:36 PM
what do you keep your house temp at?
Marlin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 03:00 PM
I keep the house around 78 Degrees. Outside temp here in the Rio Grande valley has been hitting close to 100 every day.
Rick
CD
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 03:15 PM
Rick - if you do get a chiller, you may want to consider doing this also...install fans in the canopy and have them kick on at the same time the chiller comes on. This really helps boost the efficiency of the chiller, keeps the temp. regulated with almost no "swings", and the chiller won't run as long (helps greatly to reduce your electricity usage).
W. :)
alexwolf
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 03:49 PM
i have the pacific coast 1/4 hp on my 240. Works great.
Tim Marvin
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 05:19 PM
So your canopy is enclosed? That is the problem. I run the garage temp at 80-82 degree, and the tank stays 79-82. I have 2 DE 250w halides one DE 400w halide and 8 T-5's on a 180 gallon system. There are 3 fans blowing directly on the water.
falcondob
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 05:56 PM
There are 3 fans blowing directly on the water.
So, having the fans blow ON the water, as opposed to OUT of the hood is a more efficient setup?
CD
Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 06:33 PM
So, having the fans blow ON the water, as opposed to OUT of the hood is a more efficient setup?
Yes...there's more evaporation that way, and more evap = cooler water temps. Since heat rises, you can cut a couple of slots or holes in the top of the canopy for the heat to escape.
W.
Beckmola24
Wed, 8th Jun 2005, 08:45 AM
I've been talking with a few people that make stands and canopies, and they actually install fans on the tops of their canopies to help expell the heat out the top. On top of that you can try the fans on the water. I did that on my 20 gallon and it kept it very cool even though our house was like 90 degrees (we didn't have air in Seattle) :sick
Marlin
Wed, 8th Jun 2005, 12:59 PM
I have a 4" fan bringing in room air from one side of the canopy and another 4" fan blowing air out the opposite end of the canopy. This blows air across the water. Additionally I have 6 - 4" diameter openings on the top of the canopy to let heat go up and out. These openings do not have fans. Maybe a quick/easy solution is to put fans in a couple of the openings on the top of the canopy. I'm going to try that this weekend.
I really appreciate all the ideas and help I've gotten from you all. Maybe I'll be able to remedy this w/o buying the chiller. I'll keep you posted on how it turns out.
Rick
gjuarez
Wed, 8th Jun 2005, 02:22 PM
Hey Rick, it Jerry. Rick, one of the members of the RGV club was wanting to sell his chiller. His name is Frank and he was at the first meeting we had. I think he is asking $150.00 to $200.00, I dont really remember the price. I would go the route most people are recommending, which is install a fan that blows directly across the water, but if youre interested in the chiller I could give you his number. BTW, how are your acros doing?
Marlin
Wed, 8th Jun 2005, 07:06 PM
Hi Jerry:
I remember that someone had a Pacific Coast 1/10 HP chiller for sale, but I couldn't find it so I thought it was gone by now.
The acros are not doing well I think because of the temperature problem I have.
Rick
MikeDeL
Thu, 9th Jun 2005, 12:13 AM
N/M
schoeplein
Thu, 9th Jun 2005, 10:25 AM
Being someone who was heavily into computer modifications and cooling, you learn a lot about air flow, proper circulation, and how powerful basic fans can be. If positioned right, you can cool just about anything with basic fans.
And yes, I would definitely mount fans in every orifice of your canopy; have both side fans pushing air in, and all holes on the top with fans pushing air out. Basic laws of physics - heat goes up. :) ... and out.
ReefOne
Thu, 9th Jun 2005, 03:09 PM
i have a Pacific Coast CL-650 on my setup and it's awesome. Nothing else I can say except that I love the thing. Got a good deal, 300 bucks.
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