View Full Version : Installed Sump- Time to move!
VeeDub
Thu, 5th May 2005, 10:34 PM
Dry fitted all the parts today for the sump plumbing and I believe it might just work. I chose to do all the fitment on top of the stand so I could be sure everythin fits inside. It's been taking some time to try and get the 210 ready to fill with water. At this point, I can glue it all together and get it into the stand. Then I will need a few victims to move the stand and help put the tank on the stand.
We might even have water in it by the end of next week if all goes well.
We are so excited that we are almost there.
Here's a photographic record of the plumbing.
To anyone who may mention the lack of a 90 in the sump, got it but it's not in the pic. I will need to secure the skimmer tubing to the back wall once installed in the stand.
The tally for Lowes/ Home Depot runs was only 6. :D
Chris
VeeDub
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:05 PM
Also, I'm sure someone will notice the fact that I don't have any unions between the pumps and sump.
I don't have room for unions so I purchased a couple plugs to fit in the bulkheads should I need to remove pumps for any reason. Just thought I would mention this before somebody else does, since obviously, it wouldn't be wise not to be able to remove a pump for cleaning or replacement.
I am also going to relocate the reactor bottle outside the stand and run the skimmer waste collector where the bottle is.
Everything will fit just perfect.
Gator
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:07 PM
looking good, that is a good idea to plump everything where you have room then move it under the stand
VeeDub
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:12 PM
Wooo, that sure is looking nice. :)
Thanks Joshua and Gator.
Had to get *cough* sick *cough* for half a day today in order to attempt to have this ready by the weekend.
We were slow at work anyway so I figured that if I can't make money, might as well spend it so I could make some progress with the plumbing.
I decided it would be much easier to fit it all together up top. Last time I plumbed under the stand, there was much trial and error involved. It went much smoother this time around.
Chris
VeeDub
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:33 PM
Joshua,
It's Beckett brand "water gardening tubing". Can be found at Home Depot in 20' rolls for $24. Would have used it on the skimmer also but had to go 3/4" for the skimmer and didn't need 20'.
It's way easier to work with than spaflex. The best part is you can bend this stuff in a tight 180 degree loop and it wont kink. Fits nice and tight on barb fittings and I am going to be using it for the tank returns also.
Chris
NaCl_H2O
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:41 PM
Great progress, looks very nice :)
Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well, hope Wendy doesn't catch it and have to stay home too ;)
Reef69
Thu, 5th May 2005, 11:48 PM
WOW!!!..thats the coolest looking sump i have ever seen..
scuba_steveo
Fri, 6th May 2005, 12:28 AM
About to go to bed so I have to keep this short......
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oceancube
Fri, 6th May 2005, 12:55 AM
Looks good, saw this at dans house a few weeks back, the sump is HUGE,Great work you'll be happy once it's up and running!!!
Polkster13
Fri, 6th May 2005, 06:50 AM
Just let me know when You would like Tim and I to come over and help. We are both looking forward to helping you getting this up and running.
BTW, Melinda and I will be at your place around 9:30 AM tomorrow morning.
VeeDub
Fri, 6th May 2005, 07:23 AM
Joshua,
It's Beckett brand "water gardening tubing".
Chris
Is it ribbed on the inside? I'm wondering if it cuts flow down at all. Also, how does it stand up to the UV of our halides? I have a bare bottom tank so all the stuff under the tank gets hit with it too. If I leave rubber bands down there they get brittle and weak. heh
Joshua,
This tubing is pretty smooth inside. I doubt there will be much, if any, flow loss. With tight bends, there may be some loss as you can feel the ribbing bunching up inside the hose at that point.
I also checked into the UV characteristics. They say it is "UV stabilized" since it is for use in outdoor pond situations. And since light can't penetrate, no algae buildup in the hose.
Polkster,
See you tomorrow and I will definitely let you and Tim know when it's time. I'm hoping we can make this happen this weekend.
Thanks.
Chris
jauringer
Fri, 6th May 2005, 08:59 AM
oops mistake
Polkster13
Fri, 6th May 2005, 09:02 AM
Hey Jason,
You might want to list this in the for sale column so others will know what you have for sale. Or are you trying to get Chris and Wendy to buy your stuff?
jauringer
Fri, 6th May 2005, 09:24 AM
very sorry, wrong thread.
Tim Marvin
Fri, 6th May 2005, 12:08 PM
Chris, I would change the bulkhead on the sump to a Savko or Ryan Hurco bulkhead. If the other ones leak it won't matter because they are in the sump or over it. If that one leaks it will be on your floor. It is a inexpensive easy save right now, but a Big headache later when it starts to leak.
Polkster13
Fri, 6th May 2005, 12:31 PM
Check with Greg. He had several of these for sale when I was over at his place recently. I am sure he will make you a deal on one of them. He had several and was wanting to get rid of them.
VeeDub
Fri, 6th May 2005, 01:39 PM
Chris, I would change the bulkhead on the sump to a Savko or Ryan Hurco bulkhead.
Good point Tim. I still needed 2- 1" bulkheads for the tank anyway.
I will run by Ryan Herco on a road test.
I picked up the cheapie bulkheads for the fuge for the reason that you stated. They won't be submerged, just used for outlets and if they leak, the water will still wind up in the sump anyway.
Thanks for the heads up.
Chris
Tim Marvin
Fri, 6th May 2005, 10:28 PM
The savko are cheaper if you order them online, but the ryans you can have now. Both are very high quality and you could use a 3 foot pipe wrench on them and still not break them. Of course you would need to tighten them like that. It is nice to know though if you ever get a leak you can just do another turn on them. The cheaper one tend to break or strip the threads if too tight, and there is nothing worse than an established tank leaking.
VeeDub
Sun, 8th May 2005, 10:15 PM
It was an ugly, nasty day today, but it did allow me to catch up on my progress with this sump. This is a good thing since all I had accomplished yesterday was scoring more corals from Fin Addict. :D The movie was good too.
I picked up a couple RyanHerco bulkheads last week and proceeded to file my holes larger to accept the new bulkheads. Removed the back of the stand today only to find out that the whole lower rear wood support of the stand was deteriorated as well as the base. At least I figured this out now rather than after the tank was full. I replaced the entire rear lower stand support and added 8- 2x4 supports along the back, sides, and front.
I went and picked up a T5 retrokit from 360reef and got the lighting installed for the fuge. I need to get some heatshrink tubing so I can finish the T5 wiring. Got the sump under the stand and the back reinstalled. I will finish the plumbing once the tank hits the stand.
Those of you who offered some assistance with moving the tank onto the stand will be receiving a call this week.
You have seen a pic with everything on the stand (which I deleted to make room) and now is a pic of everything under the stand. Everything fit, just as planned.
Chris
VeeDub
Sun, 8th May 2005, 11:21 PM
I just realized that the MR2 skimmer looks pretty wimpy under this stand.
Hmm, I may need a 30"-32" skimmer. Where could I find such a skimmer? :innocent
VeeDub
Sun, 8th May 2005, 11:42 PM
Just kidding about the skimmer thing. (it does look wimpy though)
Speaking of skimmers, did nobody notice that I had hooked the calcium reactor feed line into the circulation pump instead of the pressure pump?
Fortunately, I caught this myself but that would have been blowing it after getting everything under the stand and then realizing what I had done. This was another good reason to try and plumb everything outside of the stand.
I was able to plug the hole in the return line and hang the reactor feed into the GRI pump for the skimmer.
Glad I noticed this or I would have had chronic issues getting the reactor to work/flow right.
I actually picked up on this while looking at the pic. I didn't notice it while I was plumbing the thing.
Polkster13
Mon, 9th May 2005, 06:14 AM
Glad you were able to catch that in time. I am not going to be available tonight or Wednesday evening, but the reast of the week is open. Will be awaiting your call.
Nice looking setup. Can't wait to see the final product. Bet you can't either!
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