View Full Version : Gauging interest in magnesium chloride, Bulk order
btacker
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 02:43 PM
We would have to buy 4 - 50lb bags at $35.45 a bag.
So that would come to around
50 lbs for $35.45
25 lbs for $17.75
For those who do not know the roles of magnesium in reef tank, you may want to do a search on RC.
Magnessium Chroride is the safest form of magnesiums to add to reef tank, it promotes the growth of coraline (may be sps?), calcium alone will not get it done. Wonder why you could not keep pH up no matter how much kalkwasser and washing soda you dosed? Chance are your tank low in magnesium.
So, who is interested and would you want 25 lbs or 50 lbs?
http://reefcentral.com/forums....gnesium
http://www.icemelters.com/mag.htm
http://www.icemelters.com/pricemag.htm
Interested in 25 lbs
btacker
falcam7
Interested in 50 lbs
falcam7
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 02:58 PM
Bryan,
I am in for a for 25 lbs.
But If you do not get enough people. I will buy a whole bag to help on this group buy. ;)
btacker
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 02:59 PM
You're a good guy Carlos.... I don't care what Chris says about you :D
Richard
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 04:57 PM
Using magnesium chloride long term can result in ionic imbalances just like you get with using an unbalanced calcium additive such as calcium chloride.
For a DIY balanced magnesium supplement you can use 10 parts magnesium chloride to 1 part magnesium sulfate(Epsom Salt from HEB).
btacker
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 04:59 PM
Sounds great! Thanks for the tip.
Maybe we can get some of that in a group buy as well.
::pete::
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 04:59 PM
Im not knocking the idea, but using Oceanic salt and Salifert test kits my magnesium is never low!!
captexas
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 06:13 PM
Yeppers, I would have to agree, magnesium doesn't get depleted nearly as fast as the other elements. If you are low for some reason, just do a water change.
Tim Marvin
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 09:18 PM
Lets buy one 25 lbs bag, split it up with all the members and we'll all have enough for a couple years...LOL....JK..
NaCl_H2O
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 10:14 PM
Im not knocking the idea, but using Oceanic salt and Salifert test kits my magnesium is never low!!
Same experience here, 1300-1500 everytime I test
GaryP
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 10:49 PM
I use only Epsom salt.
Gary
MikeDeL
Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 10:57 PM
I use only Epsom salt.
Gary You dont buy any supplements packaged for aquarium use do you Gary? :D It is amazing the huge make up they put on something just for sticking it in a bottle with a picture of a fish on it. :o
falcam7
Sun, 30th Jan 2005, 01:44 PM
Bryan,
I am still in. :-D
Thanks to everyone else for thier input. :D
Another question to the group what is Kent Tech M?
Isn't it the same thing
captexas
Sun, 30th Jan 2005, 04:55 PM
It's one of those things, just because someone makes it, doesn't mean you need it. Kent and the other companies make additives for just about everything possible. Any decent salt mix will have enough levels of these elements/compounds to keep your tank happy other than calcium/alkalinity levels. That of course depends on how much is being used up by the corals in your tank.
::pete::
Sun, 30th Jan 2005, 05:11 PM
I use only Epsom salt.
Gary
Is that why you sit with your feet in the tank :-D !!
GaryP
Mon, 31st Jan 2005, 11:45 AM
Mag M is basically what Richard said, a mixture of Mag Chloride and Sulfate. Of course the biggest difference is that its 99% RO water. I know where I can get RO a bit cheaper than from Kent. I believe its Kent or one of the others that makes a dry Mag mixture. I used it before I started using Epsom. I always tried to use the dry stuff so I wasn't paying shipping, markup, and containers for water.
I sometimes add a little Iodine and Coral Accel to my tanks. That's about the only additives I buy and I probably won't be buying any more Coral Accel when I use up my 64 oz. bottle. If I could get iodine crystals I would make my own Lugol's. I have some Potassium Iodide.
Richard also has gotten me started using potassium permanganate from Kent. Its an oxidizer. It basically does something similar to ozone and acts as a manganese supplement as a side benefit. Its not something you should be using if you don't know what you are doing. Its pretty nasty stuff. The big advantage is that it helps break up detritus and lower TOC. My suspicion it that it can also increase the performance of a skimmer but I don't have any proof of that. I know that ozone does.
Gary
falcam7
Tue, 1st Feb 2005, 10:45 AM
Bryan,
I guess no one else intrested but you and me.
Only, if we can buy one bag at $54.45 and split it between 4 or 5 people
Is anybody out there using Kent Tech M? This stuff is the same thing.
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