A. Percula Order

[ClamFan]

I am putting together a group order for some tank raise A. Percula clowns. I do not have a definite price yet but I expect to have one soon, depending on the quantity we want. These fish will be ordered through Aquatics Warehouse on or around the 26th of this month and recieved the following Tuesday.

Post here if you want to get onboard or if you have any questions. I am still working on the payment details and will post an update tomorrow.

ClamFan

[ClamFan]

This will be exclusive to Percs but Im sure they will be willing to order you one.

[ClamFan]

Hello all. After talking with Ivan I will be taking care of the payment arrangements once we have a definite price and quantity. I will be getting 3 for my self.

[ClamFan]

I expect them to be 3/4" - 1 1/2" but I am sure we can arrange for you to get the 1 of the largest one that come in, if that will help. I will hopefully have a price tomorrow.

[Xtreme]

How much?pet wherehouse has true perc.on sale$ 13.95

[DeletedAccount]

And, survival wise, much more worth it....

[mhaynes01]

i would like some of those percs

15 gallon enough room for two?

[ClamFan]

IMO tank raised would be hardier and wont take any "Nemos" from there homes. greenmako, I will mention that we need one larger one for you.

Where is Pet Warehouse? I have never heard of that one.

[alexwolf]

Aquatic Warehouse also has true percs for $13, but they are wild caught. Aquacultured are more expensive.

[ClamFan]

Just came from there and those are false percs. according to them. http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=21&pCatId=756 These are the fish I am after.

[ClamFan]

Will do. Tamer said he would try to get us a price today.

[Xtreme]

Where is Pet Warehouse? I have never heard of that one.

www.petwarehouse.com

[ClamFan]

mhaynes01, I may get burned for this but I plan on putting my 3 in a 20 gal so somebody key in if a 15 gal is too small please.
BTW, do you have anything else in there now? I could also arrange to meet Austinites half way if transportation is an issue.

[Tim Marvin]

A 3 gallon tank is enough for a couple clowns. They are typically happy in one little spot. I have 2 of instars awesome maroons and they live in an area about 4 inch cubed. Rarely venture out into the rest of the tank.

[ClamFan]

Sorry I have not updated, storm knocked out my internet service. I will probably have to delay this order till the 28th since we STILL dont have a price. I apoligize for any inconvenience, I figured it would be easier dealing with AW than this. I WILL have a price by tomorrow evening or the order will have to wait. I am very sorry for the delays and pray I have this taken care of soon.

James ClamFan

[netrunner]

Hey guys,
this is Joey from over at Aquatic Warehouse. Let me first apologize for the delay in this order. Clamfan has been trying to put this together excellently and I wish we didn't have this delay in the pricing. I will post later today (Tuesday) when I speak with Tamer about the pricing again. Thanks for all the support.

Joey

[netrunner]

OK, got an update for you guys.
The pricing on the True Perc's is going to be $19. Please keep in mind these are captive bred clowns. The clowns will be availabe 1 week from Thursday. Please PM Clamfan with how many you want and get your money to him. We will be ordering these on Thursday (2 days). We will setup an isolated tank at the store so everyone can pickup their clowns on that Thursday of Friday. Thanks again

Joey

[Tim Marvin]

Why not try ORA, they have them for $8 each plus shipping. If we get 20 clowns we are only talking about $225 with shipping that is $11 per clown. If you sell them for $16 that is still $100 profit for a quick order pre-sold.... Just a thought...

[alexwolf]

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[DeletedAccount]

Alex needs more fish. Doesn't he????

[ClamFan]

Alex does need some more fish :D AW and I have decided to go through ORA so we will be placing the order on the 6th of may instead of this Thursday so more people can get on board. This will push the arrival date to the thirteenth of May. I apoligize any inconvenience caused by this delay. Send me a PM or post here if you are interested.

ClamFan

[Tim Marvin]

So is the cost going to be $15-$16 then?

[ClamFan]

I will have a talk with them about that Tim. I am wondering about that. Maybe they can give me an explanation thats acceptable ;)

[netrunner]

hey guys,
The price on the clowns is going to be $19. This is the price we have come to with ORA in mind. If you wish to get in on this order, please contact Clamfan. The price is non-negotiable, and I apologize if there was any confusion. Thanks again

Joey

[Tim Marvin]

That is standard retail price.... I thought we'd get a discount for a group buy.... I'm not trying to stir up any problems or argue, but it just doesn't seem like a discount.

[matt]

3 conspecific clowns in a small space is NOT going to work for long. 2 will pair up and kill or harass the third. Tim, of course you're correct in terms of their space requirements, but don't forget to mention that you need a large enough volume to provide adequate bio filtration. Nitrogen compounds in a 3 gallon volume will build up really fast.

[Tim Marvin]

Yes Matt your right, I was refering more to they don't need much space to be happy. I wouldn't place them in a tank smaller than 10 gallons and you'd better be pretty good at salt water. Salinity changes and PH swings can take these little guys out fairly easy. A 3 gallon probably would not keep up with gas exchange and even if it could it would need a lot of water changes which would stress them out. Great Point Matt.

[alexwolf]

Hey Tim, why dont you do the order then? Maybe someone from SA can drive up and pick them up from you, just a thought.

[ClamFan]

Here is a great pic of the fish were after. http://www.globaldialog.com/~jrice/fish_page/percula.htm

[kaiser]

If that is what You are after don't order from ORA. The clowns they sell as true percs look more like ocellaris. My Experience with them in the past.

[ClamFan]

When they are young they closly resemble the false perc.s but tank bred will have a slightly different appearence than wild caught. Like here http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=21&pCatId=756

[ClamFan]

Joshua said:



That's a good price for captive bred clowns. I wish I didn't already have two that are worthless (ignore eachother).

Lets get you 2 more so they can have more friends. :D

[Tim Marvin]

No I'm not trying to break in on anyones order just thought we could get them cheaper. I guess they are coming from ORA already. I'm happy to do group orders, but not take over someone elses.

[ClamFan]

:police: JUST A REMINDER!!! :police: The order will be placed on the Sixth of May for delivery on the Thirteenth of May. Money needs to be recieved on the day of delivery. Our goal is 20 clowns so post here or send me a PM to RSVP yours.
Thanks to MAThueson, netrunner, and AW for your support!!!

[Triggerman]

just wanted to let yall know ORA usually only has mis barred true perculas for sale unless they updated there availability. so you might want to check with AW to see what they say, so yall don't end up with regular A.ocellaris or a bunch of mis barred clowns.

[alexwolf]

why not order from liveaquaria? They have a guarantee and free shipping over $175?

[ClamFan]

Cause Im already committed and AW will get some extra ones so anyone who changes thier mind they will have a couple. Not to mention, I dont have room for that many fish in my 20 gal. :confused:

[captexas]

I have to second Josh's statement. Most importantly, if you have no intention of joining the order, you do not need to be voicing your opinions, especially if they are negative or non-productive. As with all orders, if you do not like the pricing or the product, feel free to go and start your own order to get what you want. It is obvious that ClamFan has made his decision and knows what he wants. Please show some respect for the other members of this club and for sponsors that are trying to help the club.

Chris Parker
MAAST, Board of Directors

[Sherri]

I agree Joshua & Chris...the order is set for those who DO want them. If others don't...then don't...real simple. :D

[ClamFan]

Tomorrow is the big day!!! Everyone interested can send me a PM or post here to claim your Clowns. Remember, the order will be placed tomorrow and picked up next Thursday at Aquatic Warehouse. All money will be due next Thursday to myself or AW. Thanks

ClamFan

P.S. The current count is 3. GreenMako, I have you down for 1 large one.

[OrionN]

Just so that those who ordered did not get disapointed, A. percula take and long time to color up to their final color. Young A. percula looks like mis-fits with misbars. Many will develope and look like true Percula after 9-12 months.
Minh