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malofish
Fri, 9th Jan 2004, 11:25 PM
I woke up two days ago just to find both my clowns missing???? I have an eclipse hood so I know that they didn't jump out. They both seemed very healthy, they were eating like pigs and swimming all over the place. I have them in a ten gal. with a yellow clown goby, and he;s doing just fine??? I think that bristle worms ate my clowns, budt the yellow gobie's half their size and still alive?? Any ideas, or a arrowcrab that I can borrow to eat a few of the bristleworms?

matt
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 12:25 AM
The bristleworms did not eat your clownfish. They're in there. Start taking rocks out, you'll find them. Three fish in a ten gallon?

Henry
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 03:15 PM
Did any of your rocks fall? I lost a tang once that was crushed.

DeletedAccount
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 07:08 PM
Wow! It is hard to lose something in a 10.... I have had the bristles munch bodies AFTER death, but not cause the death.

dan
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 07:44 PM
come onmalofish, you know those worms did'nt eat your fish.what are you trying to pull? lol lol

JesterGrin_1
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 08:04 PM
He know's better or maybe he is trying to make us think he has the only killer worms in the trade lol.

dan
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 08:11 PM
watch out he'll probably want to sell them at next meeting. ha!ha!ha!

dan
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 08:17 PM
oh ya my feather duster ate my clown trigger. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Yano
Sat, 10th Jan 2004, 08:18 PM
oh ya my feather duster ate my clown trigger. :confused: :confused: :confused:
That would be a very interesting thing to see :lol:

malofish
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 12:32 AM
your gonna get it dan!!!! I'm gonna bad mouth your seudo!!! I have no idea what happend to them, they were doing fine, morning came -GONE-???? I've heard and read about large bristles attacking fish at night and I've pulled out some large suckers!!! the last one I pulled out, fresh water and dead, streached out about 7in. and was pretty fat!! And i've seen bigger in some of the large pieces of rock in the tank, if you know better then tellme!! I did find about 10 of what I think is a dwarf species of mantis shrimp in my tank, the largest I found was about 3/8in in lenght and a drab brown. And alot of smaller ones, haven't found any info on then on the web though????? Help!!

kaiser
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 07:58 AM
One of my clowns commited suicide and jumped out of the tank. My wife found him laying on the counter behind the tank one morning. He's probably seen "Finding Nemo" one to many times.

Yano
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 09:19 AM
lol, my firefish jump out of the tank the day before I got my new glass top got, grrrr

dan
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 10:06 AM
malofish, you need a bigger tank!

kaiser
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 10:11 AM
My tank has a glass top. there is only about 2 inches open in the back, and most of that is taken up by equipment.

MikeP
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 10:54 AM
The regular red/black bristleworms no, but there are definitley predatory worms we can get in our tanks that can get fish. There is one called a 'dreamweaver' worm that anesthetizes the fish with a web of mucus then consumes it. There are also some nasty worms that can live in sand and rock. Look at pictures of some Eunicid worms they are voracious predators and will eat small fish in a heartbeat. Here's a pic of one of the worms I'm talking about - doubt you have this one just giving you some perspective that there are some predatory worms that can get in our tanks"

http://slugsite.tierranet.com/pi97/bobbit.jpg

another:

http://www.vibrantsea.net/images/bobbit7_anilao18.jpg

Some of the larger pistol shrimp and even a decent size mantis or crab could easily have made a meal of your clowns too. Aside from the usual listening for cracks and pops check the tank at night with a red flashlight and see if you can locate them. Better yet - whatever it is or may be get a small glass jar, lean it against the rocks and put some food at the bottom - you may catch the offending crustacean if thats what it is.

Also in the unlikely event they both died so close together nassarius snails in particular can make short work of a corpse in your tank. If you have an abundance of snails and crabs they along with other scavengers could get rid of the bodies in less than a day for such small fish.

matt
Sun, 11th Jan 2004, 12:08 PM
Everything I've ever read about predatory worms says that they are EXTREMELY rare in aquariums. I guess it's possible that if there's a mantis shrimp, it got them. Much more likely is that fact that malofish has an overloaded 10 gallon tank, with enough rock so that he can't find the fish? How much room does that leave for water? Maybe 6-7 gallons. Three fish in 6 gallons of water, what do you expect? Sounds like there's a lot of life in that tank for the size.

Sorry to be so negative, especially without seeing your system. After having a nano myself, I know first hand how easy it is to overstock them.

malofish
Mon, 12th Jan 2004, 02:43 AM
I know that there was a small blue-clawed pistol shrimp in the tank, but I would asume he would've eaten the even smaller yellow clown goby??? And I know that three fish to a ten's too much, but I'm building a stand for my 7bow as we speak! ;-) They were very small a good price and I was trying to get a little excitement in my ten till I got my 54bow finished. (hint-hint dan) I do have a few nassa. snails and alot of bristles, so if they died behind the rock, it's possible that they were eat'n??? but still no clowns, Harry and Loyde will be missed:(