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TexasState
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 10:06 AM
For those of you looking for the alternatives:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2359180848&category=20 758

http://fishinthe.net/html/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3601

http://fishinthe.net/html/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4682//

http://www.jebao.com/cd/owa/siw_main.display_map?pi_org_id=8802233430

captexas
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 06:23 PM
So did you buy one Vinh? A couple of those look almost identical but different colors. Would be alright if Eheim was making them and private labeling them for other companies, but I doubt it. As with most things, nothing beats having the real deal. Of course, that is just my opinion after owning one myself :-)

TexasState
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 07:22 PM
Eh*im are made in China. It's likely to be the other way around. Not all the reviews out there on Eheim are positive.
As long as the alternative is quiet and doesn't leak, I coulnd't careless. I coulnd't careless especially if I saved $150 over the 2028. It probably will just be my luck for them to come out with a heat included model after I buy these.

captexas
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 07:26 PM
If you can save $150 off the normal cost of $215 then something isn't right with it. Or is that one of those special prices that you found? lol :-)

TexasState
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 07:46 PM
If you can save $150 off the normal cost of $215 then something isn't right with it.

Good luck explaining that logic to the old folks who are buying US Prescription drugs in Mexico.


...could be that something is wrong with the $215 price tag too. It's really just plastic, a small motor, and some media.

Yeah, I paid about $300 for my Sony DVD player that won't even play MP3. Now the market is flooded with Apex DVD player can can normally (or hacked to) play most media format. If I can buy a Chinese progressive scan DVD player for $25, I should be able to buy a canister filter for $60.

captexas
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 07:49 PM
If you can save $150 off the normal cost of $215 then something isn't right with it.

Good luck explaining that logic to the old folks who are buying US Prescription drugs in Mexico.


...could be that something is wrong with the $215 price tag too. It's really just plastic, a small motor, and some media.
...could be that something is wrong with the $215 price tag too. It's really just plastic, a small motor, and some media.

Yeah, I paid about $300 for my Sony DVD player that won't even play MP3. Now the market is flooded with Apex DVD player can can normally (or hacked) to play most medica format. If I can buy a progressive scan DVD player for $25, I should be able to buy a canister filter for $60.[/quote]Then I shouldn't have to pay $25,000 for a new pick-up truck that is just plastic, a combustion engine and rubber tires either! All a matter of supply and demand. Imagine you should have taken a few economics courses for one of your majors there at TSU :-)

captexas
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 08:12 PM
yeah, yeah. **** goverment. Nah, **** car manufacturers!

As far as the filters go, sure it is just some plastic and some molding, but it takes money to do product design and development, build a manufacturing plant with machines and come up with new molds for the plastic, market the products, package them and then ship around the world. Plus pay all the normal operating expenses yearly. If it were so easy we would all be doing it in our garages!

Overall, the majority of stuff in this world is overpriced. Vinhs DVD player is just like computers. Give a new technology a couple years and it's less than half the original price and twice as good. Computers you can buy for $750 now cost $2000 two years ago!

But you also get what you pay for. My boss loves buying stuff on Ebay, especially computer stuff as it is so cheap. Always gets crap. Got a laptop the other day that the LCD screen panel came off a different kind of laptop, it was 2inches wider than the main part of the laptop and was put on using some JB Weld! All kinds of problems with that thing. But, he got a good deal on it! :roll2:

TexasState
Tue, 11th Nov 2003, 08:12 PM
Then I shouldn't have to pay $25,000 for a new pick-up truck that is just plastic, a combustion engine and rubber tires either! All a matter of supply and demand. Imagine you should have taken a few economics courses for one of your majors there at TSU

Ouch! I took several economics courses. It’s your choice if you want to buy a BRAND new pick-up truck. You can buy barely used truck for less. Or you can try to make friend with the peoples who run the dealer ship to buy new product at discount. Not all companies follow the supply and demand model. If there are new model coming down the pipe, they'll cut price to make room for the new model. If a certain manufacture are sitting on a whole warehouse of product, they might decide to clear out to make room. Have you notice that Nemo is the highest selling movie when they come out last week. It's the highest selling movie, but stores were selling them for $10 to $18 a pop. Wait a few more weeks, the price will get higher and higher. The price get higher, but there will be less peoples wanting to buy them.

Predatory Pricing: You hear about this mentioned on the news once in a while. Pricing your products and services low in the short-term to gain market share. Have you wondered what happen to all the little mom and pop stores that were here 20 years ago?
Slash Pricing: Pricing products services low in the long-term by making fundamental changes in the product or service.
Phase-out pricing: Pricing products or services high to so the customer wouldn’t bother to order it.
Pre-emptive pricing: Pricing products or services low to discourage new competitor from entering the market.
Snot Appeal – Pricing your product high so snobby, European wanna be buyer can feel good and show off. Take a look at how some Truck are going into the $40,000 a pop.

Overall, the majority of stuff in this world is overpriced. Vinhs DVD player is just like computers. Give a new technology a couple years and it's less than half the original price and twice as good. Computers you can buy for $750 now cost $2000 two years ago!

The situation can be deeper then what you described. Take a look at TV and DVD player industry, certain new comer to the market has been marking their price very low. During promotion period, some DVD player cost as low as 50% to 90% of what other companies are charging. The US is trying to seek anti-dumping charge against these low priced electronic companies.


But you also get what you pay for. My boss loves buying stuff on Ebay, especially computer stuff as it is so cheap. Always gets crap. Got a laptop the other day that the LCD screen panel came off a different kind of laptop, it was 2inches wider than the main part of the laptop and was put on using some JB Weld! All kinds of problems with that thing. But, he got a good deal on it!

That's not always the case. I research b4 I buy(well, half of the time I do.) How long has the product been around? What kind of warranty and customer support can I expect to get? What kind of opinion does other users have about that product?Most impeller driven product tend to slow down and get noisy as they aged. If I can buy a product for cheap and replace them yearly, so be it. Last time I check the replacement impeller on my Eheim pump is $50. Should I buy a new Eheim impeller, or should I buy a whole new pump of another brand? It's too bad your boss decide to buy his laptop on Ebay, some used stuff there selling for close to or more then new product. I know of many peoples who buy stuff from Dell, then Ebay them for profit.