Giant clam group order

[Jimnorris]

Everyone talked me into it so lets do it!
Give me your input---this is what I was thinking.
I will have a friend cherry pick all the clams that we order. I will buy them at wholesale prices :D
If you are a member then your price will be wholesale plus $5.00 which will be a donation to the club?
Jim

[robertpower3]

Count me in. I would like to try a maxima or crocea. How much and what sizes? colors?

[GaryP]

Jim, what kind of price/size range are we talking about?

Gary

[sholzrichter]

count me in too. I am interested in a ultra blue maxima and a red or purple maxima if you can get them under $80 for both.

Jim, Thanks for the flags. I will send you some pictures late.

Stephanie

[DustinWayman]

Hey Jim, like I duscussed with you at the meeting, I would like to get something small, very small for my nano. What variety do you reccomend?

Thanks!
~Dust

[Sherri]

Count me in also Jim...I think the last maxima clam I got from you was 4" (??) at the last meeting at your house. I would like to get something like a derasa or squamosa - something I can put down lower in my 440 VHO so I can see & enjoy him. The prettiest of the two (derasa or squamosa). Are they available in colors or just gold?? And I would be more than happy to let you pick it out for me Jim if need be. Would just need to know some kind of a price I'm looking at...and how we can get them down here to SA for the people that order..

Thank ya! :D

Sherri

[OrionN]

I am in for two Maxima and two Crocea, and a Gigas if possible.
How are we going to divide the clams. I know that there are going to be some clams that are nicer than other. Do we take turn picking one at a time until it is gone? Number the clams then just pick out of the hat? (fairest) then just trade with each other if we want.
I want a really blue ultra Maxima and a Black and White Maxima. One tear drop one if possible.
For Crocea, just two beautiful ones.
Minh

[captexas]

I would be in depending on price. Like Josh, I would like a medium sized clam that doesn't have to be specially fed daily. Definately colorful as in crocea and/or maximas. Also interested in the time frame as I am fixing to spend money on my calcium reactor.

[Jimnorris]

A thought!
I want to kept the sizes of the clams around 3 inches and bigger.
I would like everyones first wish then maybe a backup (incase the first cannot be filled).
Croceas, maximas and squamosas are usally in stock.
Minh we would really need some luck and prayes to get a gigas!
For example I will get two faxes tomorrow from two LA wholesalers then I will post what they have in stock. This will give everyone an idea of sizes and colors and types (maximas---ultra and color and croceas electric and 1st grade) and prices.
Jim

[Sherri]

Sounds good to me Jim...just let us know...Thanks!

Sherri

[Joe]

Okay Jim, count me in for one depending on what kind of time frame we're talking about. I won't have extra cash until Monday the 10th. I would like a bright blue ultra maxima with red highlights if possible. Second choice would be a black and white maxima. Let me know.

------Joe

[matt]

Jim;

I'll take a blue Maxima! Thanks. I'm not available from this Saturday until the 17th; will this wait until then?

Thanks
Matt

[Joe]

Jim, depending on how the prices come back, I may be interested in two.

[JeffCo]

I would be interested in two as well. One ultra blue maxima 3" or bigger and an electric green crocea 3" or bigger. Thanks.

[Tim Marvin]

Minh, not that I want to part with it, but if you get another clam around 7 inch that I can replace it with I'll give you my gigas. You have treated this group, Jim, and I right so I'll do this for you. This is not an open offer, it is for Minh only. The gigas is burgandy with purple dots, and I'll probably kick myself later.

[OrionN]

Tim,
I think I can get a really nice 6-8 inches Squamosa (My clam at a friend's tank). If I do get this I will tank a picture of the clam and see if you are willing to trade your Gigas for my Squamosa.
Minh

[Tim Marvin]

I'm not willing, but I'll do it for you.... I am hoping Jim will find one and save me here.....LOL....

[z28pwr]

Jim, I don't know much about clams but I would like to get a "Super Colored" Maxima Clam. This would be my first clam therefore if you think I should get another type of Clam that would be easier let me know.

Thanks.

[GaryP]

z28, you might want to do some research online about clams and find out which type of clam your system will support as far as lights are concerned as well as how large and and how fast they grow. I personally like maximas because they are usually smaller and slower growing than some of the others. They are more light dependent than some of the others though. I wouldn't get a maxima unless you have MH's.

[adaminaustin]

(1x) 3"Ultra Maxima and (1x) 3"Derase. If thay are out of the Ultra Maxima, get me (1x) 3"electric crocea and (1x) 3"Derase. Ill let you pick out the colors. ;)

Thanks,
Adam

[MikeP]

I'd like a nice snakeskin patterned squamosa and a gold maxima. My maxima currently is looking much better but I had been holding off on adding any more clams in case the mantle pinching symptoms return - so far so good after 2 mos.

[z28pwr]

This is what I've read so far.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=23&pCatId=586


My Setup is as follows.

Oceanic 92 Gallon RR Corner BowFront with Sump & Refugium. Mag 9.5 as a return (3) MaxiJet 1200's hooked up to a Tsunami wavemaker.

Lighting is provided by (2) 250 Watt Metal halides with XM bulbs.

The substrate is a 1/2" of crushed coral. The tank has 100 + lbs of LR.

Filtration is assisted by an EHEIM 2026 Canister Filter.

Population consists of:
(2) Ocellaris Clowns
(1) Algae Blenny
(1) Possum Wrasse
(3) Mexican Turbo Snails

[GaryP]

z28, That should work.

Gary

[OrionN]

I'm not willing, but I'll do it for you.... I am hoping Jim will find one and save me here.....LOL....
Tim,
I will see if I can find one elsewhere. Thanks.:(
Minh

[Jimnorris]

Examples:

Hippopus clams:
3 inch $9.75
4 inch $18.95

Maxima clams first grade:
3 inch $19.95
4 inch $29.95
5 inch $49.95

Crocea clams first grade:
3 inch $15.50
4 inch $19.50
5 inch $28.95

Crocea clams electric:
3 inch $23.95
4 inch $29.95
5 inch $34.95

Derasa clam colored:
3 inch $21.50

Squamosa clams colored:
3 inch $16.95
4 inch $24.95
5 inch $32.95

This is a listing sent to me for this week stock order.
These price do not enclude shipping and box charges.
These prices do not enclude the $5.00 to MAAST.

This is a normal stock listing threw a Top Notch Wholesaler.

Note RARE clams can be had sometime.
What to you think?
Jim

[Bigreefer]

I'm interested in this group order....

Jason

[sholzrichter]

For sure, I would like:
- one 3" or 4" ultra blue Maxima
- one 3" red/purple Maxima like this one http://www.clamsdirect.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=522&cat=10&page=1
- one 3" gold/green Squamosa

Thanks, Stephanie

[z28pwr]

I'd like a Ultra Blue 3" Maxima Clam or a 3" Purple Ultra Maxima.

[JeffCo]

looks good. Still want a 3" blue or purple ultra maxima & 3 " electric crocea.

[GaryP]

Jim,

Put me down for a 3" purple Maxima, if they are available.

If not I'd like a 3" electric Crocea.

Gary

[OrionN]

Jim,
I think if we can get Ultra Maxima, it would be much better. Is it possible to order from ORA?
Minh

[Jimnorris]

Minh,
Yes I can order thru ORA I will post the prices tomorrow.
Jim

[Sherri]

Will a Crocea be OK under 440 VHO lower in the tank? I have a maxima up high in the tank doing fine...if a Crocea would be OK...than I'll go for the 3" Crocea electric...if not I may need to stick to either a derasa or a squamosa...

BTW...what is scutes...an article states that the Derasa may develop "scutes?"

Sherri

[GaryP]

Scutes are the little fins on the side of the shell. In some species they wear off on older clams.

[OrionN]

Sherri,
You may wat to stay away from Crocea. They require very high light. They may live in your tank but you have them soo high that viewing them will be dificult.

[::pete::]

Suggestions for a first clam under 2 250wXM's ... plenty of current in a 100 gallon? Very bright colors !!!

[Triggerman]

you'll have no problems since you have good lighting with housing a few clams. i say a few because there are way too many colors and paterns to pick a favorite. go with your ultra grade max. although 1st. grades aren't to shabby at all. i'm not fond of crocea's but that's just my opinion, i prefer my calms to have some decent size scutes on them.

ray

[Sherri]

Yeah Minh...I hadn't had Jim mention Crocea's to me knowing I had VHO's...was curious...I do have a maxima but high on the rocks out of a good view. He is doing great, but I can't enjoy viewing him totally.
OK, Jim, I want a 3" Squamosa COLORED if possible. 2nd choice of course, would be a 3" Derasa colored. :D Thanks...

Sherri

[Jimnorris]

ORA (Oceans, Reefs, & Aquariums, Inc.)
Minh at this time ORA does not have any ultra maxima clams over 2 inches. Also at this time they do not have any colored maximas over 2 1/2 inches. Also at this time they do not have any gold maxima clams over 2 inches. Also ORA does not offer crocea clams.
ORA is a great supplier of clownfish, corals and clams. Their prices on their clams are approx 45% higher than most wholesalers??????
So I will get my current update sheet (SeaDwelling Creatures) this monday then I will list it and we can make a group order.
Jim

[phage]

I would be interested in a maxima or a crocea as well, price would dictate color/size I could afford :)

[daffynmark]

Hey Jim:

Can you clam sit for me until Thanksgiving weekend if I go in on the order? I am headed out of town on the 19th and won't be back until the 25th. I don't want to get a clam and just leave town for nearly a week.

If so, I would like to get a 3" Maxima and a 3" electric Crocea. I like this Maxima too:


- one 3" red/purple Maxima like this one http://www.clamsdirect.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=522&cat=10&page=1


I like this Crocea: http://www.clamsdirect.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=686&cat=2&page=2

Stephanie: you have excellent taste! :P

[daffynmark]

That should be one heck of a deal then!

[Jimnorris]

You bet I will keep them for you!
Jim
P.S. for pick up my disconnected phone number is###-#### :D

[MikeP]

Ok after looking it over I'll take one Derasa and 2 electric croceas. let me know how you want payment - I can drop it off at your house whenever.

[Sherri]

You got all that Jim???? Looks like you've stirred things up! ;)

Sherri

[Jimnorris]

Sherri,
Boy you got that right!
I may have to enact my first offical pronunciamento as VP. That would be hey B.O.D. members I need HELP getting this count right!
Jim

[OrionN]

Jim,
OK, I am in for 5 clams.
One black and white Maxima.
Two Ultra Crocea.
Two ultra Maxima if there is any. I don't want any colored (1 st grade Maxima)
If there is a Gigas, I love to get it.
If there is a Squamosa with Blue or Orange spot, I would love to get it.
If there is a Teardrop Maxima, I would love to get it.
If you want the money ahead of time, i cand send it to you with extra. you can refund it to me after the clams get here.
Thanks
Minh

[Instar]

Jim,
I would like to try one 3 inch electric Crocea, blue and purple or something like that.

[Triggerman]

hey jim,

o.k. i'll take about 20 or so ultra maximas make sure they're all different colors and patterns. i don't want any two alike. blues, purples, golds, greens, blks. and all the other colors of the rainbow. just kidding, it looks like you might be going thru some headaches with this thread,
it might have been better to just order 20-30 and have first come first serve or post pics like barry does and go from there.

ray

[Joe]

Jim, I would like:
one 4" purple or gold ultra maxima (1st choice)
one 4" purple or gold 1st grade maxima (2nd choice)
and
one 4" black and white ultra maxima (1st choice)
one 4" black and white 1st grade maxima (2nd choice)
Let me know how you would like payment. I could send it to you in advance if you like.

Thanks, Joe

[Sherri]

OK...I'm gonna try & help Jim out & get an idea of what everyone is wanting. If yours is wrong, pls post the correction. If I missed you....pls shout. Hope this helps Jim. The "????" is not sure an order or availability.

robertpower3: (CONFIRMED)
2 2" Maxima (Blue OR Green) ($14.95 ea)
2 Flame Angels ($13.75 ea)

sholzrichter: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Squamosa (Green/Gold) other color OK ($16.95)
1 3" Maxima 1st Grade (Red or Purple) ($24.95)
if not red or purple...then 2" any color ($14.95)
2 Flame Angels @ $13.75 ea = ($27.50)

Matt: (NEED CONFIRMATION) ( OUT OF TOWN - JIM???)
1 Ultra Maxima

z28pwr: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Ultra Blue Maxima ($24.95 FOR 1ST GRADE?)
OR
1 3" Ultra Purple Maxima
1 Flame Angel ($13.75)


Adaminaustin: (Jim can pick colors) (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Maxima 1st Grade ($24.95)
1 3" Derasa ($21.50)
1 Sm Flame Angel ($13.75)

MikeP: (CONFIRMED)
1 4" Squamosa ($24.95)
1 3" Derasa ($21.95)
1 3" Hippopus ($ 8.75)

Instar: (CONFIRMED)
3 3" Crocea 1st Grade ($15.50 ea. = $46.50)
NO PLAIN GREEN, wants blue, turquoise,
nice blue/purple, blue/orange/gold - BRIGHT

GaryP: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Purple Maxima ($24.95)

daffynmark: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Maxima (Red/Purple) ($24.95)
1 3" Electric Crocea (Blue/Gold) ($15.50 1ST GRADE)
(WANTS TO MAKE SURE SHE GETS 2 DIFF COLORS)

Joe: (CONFIRMED)
1 4" Crocea (Green, Blue and/or Red) ($19.50)
1 3" Maxima 1st Grade (Purple OR Gold) ($24.95)

Sherri: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Colored Squamosa ($16.95)

Stephen: (NEED CONFIRMATION)
1 3" Ultra Blue Maxima ($24.95 1ST GRADE)
1 3" Electric Crocea ($15.50 1ST GRADE)

bigreefer: (CONFIRMED)
1 4" Crocea ($19.50)

whatsareef: (CONFIRMED)
1 5" Crocea 1st Grade ($28.95)

DustinWayman: (CONFIRMED)
1 2" Maxima ($14.95)

phage: (CONFIRMED)
1 4" Crocea (Green or Blue) ($19.50)
1 3" Hippopus ($ 9.75)

beareef19: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Maxima 1st Grade (purple, red or combo) ($24.95)
1 3" Crocea 1st Grade (blue/Green combo) ($15.50)

alexwolf: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Maxima 1st Grade ($24.95)
1 3" Crocea ($15.50)

Austinreefer: (CONFIRMED)
1 3" Squamosa ($16.95)

Misti: (CONFIRMED)
1 4" Squamosa ($24.95)

fuzz: (CONFIRMED)
1 Flame Angel ($13.75)

Minh: (CONFIRMED)
4 Flame Angels (13.75 ea. = $55.00)
(smallest possible)
1 3" Sm Powder Blue Tang (if available)
1 3" Sm White Faced Powder Brown Tang (if available)

oceancube: (CONFIRMED)
1 Flame Angel ($13.75)


THOSE INTERESTED:

Rooster: ????


TOTAL ORDER FOR FLAME ANGELS @ $13.75 EA. (MUST HAVE TOTAL
0F 6 TO PLACE ORDER)

12 EA. (SEE ABOVE ORDERS)

[daffynmark]

Thanks Jim...I'll make a note of that phone number :lol:

[Joe]

Wow Sherri, look's like it will be a big help. Just to be clear, my order was two total not two ea.

thanks, Joe

[robertpower3]

Actually I think I want 1 ultra maxima preferably blue or green :D

[beareef19]

Now I know why Sherri is the Secretary :D Good Job :)

[Sherri]

Joe...robertpower3.....I edited your request! :D If there are any other changes....post & I'll edit and keep updated...

LOL - Having been a secretary for many years beareef19...this was making me crazy!

Sherri

[Stephen]

Jim,

I would like a 3" Ultra Blue Maxima and a 3" Electric Corcea. Please PM me with the total after shipping and donation to MAAST.
Thank you,

Stephen

[GaryP]

I like that idea.

[Sherri]

Stephen...added your order....Joshua.....edited and added your order. :D

Sherri

[adaminaustin]

Ok Sherri,
I shot you a PM. I also edited my previous post.

Thanks,
Adam B.

[Sherri]

Adam - got your PM...edited your order. Thanks.

Sherri

[GaryP]

Wow! I think we should make Sherri the secretary! Wait a minute, I think we might have already done that.

[DeletedAccount]

How much $$ are each of y'all gonna slip Jim to get first pick????

[adaminaustin]

Maybe Jim should pick the nicest clam out of the lot and post a pic, so we could auction it off to the highest bidder? Well its just a thought anyway.

[Jimnorris]

Misti,
I had not tought about that! I like your style!
Jim

[adaminaustin]

Here is some GREAT info on how to ID a clam.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/jf/feature/index.htm

[Sherri]

OK...just home from work...bigreefer and whatsareef - added both of your orders. Adam...edited yours! :D

Misti...that's why I'm helping....hehe My Mama didn't raise no fool... :skeezy: LOL No...seriously...I am fine with Jim picking out mine...he has good taste! :D

Sherri

[OrionN]

Sherri/Jim.
My clam can be any size. Maxima 1.5 true shell lenght is OK. Crocea 1 inche true shell lenght is also OK. The coloration is most important to me instead of the size.
I will let Jim draw/pick for me since I mam most likey notable to be ther until the weekend after the clams arrival to pick them up.
For all his works, Jim can have the pick of the litter is OK with me.
Thanks,
Minh

[daffynmark]

Jim is going to cherry pick for all of us, aren't you Jim :-o

[Gator]

i would be intrested in a clam if this deal was to happen.
just let me know where to pay
thanks

[adaminaustin]

Rooster,Welcome to MAAST!
Jim N is the person placing the order. He lives in Round Rock. Sherri is the person organizing everything. So just let her know what type and size clam you want.

I am sure Jim will let us know how to get him the money. Just keep a eye on this thread.

[Jimnorris]

Here we go right off the fax machine:

Croceas 1st grade:
3 inches----$15.50
4 inches----$19.50
5 inches----$28.95

Maximas 1 grade:
2 inches----$14.95
3 inches----$24.95

Squamosas (color):
3 inches----$16.95
4 inches----$24.95

Derasas (color):
3 inches----$21.50

Hippopus
3 inches----$9.75

I will have to place the order latest by Weds.
This is the complete stock order for this week.

Also there is alot special on Flame angels. Great size and color! Have to order six then they are $13.75 each!!!!!!!!

Jim
P.S.
Sherri----HELP!

[captexas]

I'll take a 4in. crocea in green or blue, which ever is available at the time of selecting.

Flame angels are cheap right now, but they still are very difficult to get to survive as was being discussed under the "killer hitchhiker hermit" thread in the main forum. I picked up a nice and healthy looking flame at the new store here in S.A. only to have to slowly die a day later. Pretty much given up on flames now as I think the majority of them are doomed to death before you get them home.

[z28pwr]

Jim, Like Sherry has in her post, I'll take a :

z28pwr:
(1) 3" Ultra Blue Maxima
OR
(1) 3" Ultra Purple Maxima

I'll also take a Flame Angel.

[daffynmark]

No change in my order. I still want to the 3" electric blue Crocea and the 3" red/purple Maxima.

[sholzrichter]

Confirm my order:
1 3" OR 4" Ultra Blue Maxima only if it is available.
1 3" Red OR Purple Maxima. If not available, a 2" Maxima in any color.
1 3" Gold/Green Squamosa. If not available, any other color will be fine.
2 Flame angels.

Thanks, Stephanie

[fuzz]

Jim.
Count me in for a flame angel.

-Greg

[Jimnorris]

I can house the flame angels in the tank out in the garage.
As far as the colors on the maximas and the croceas please do not be disappointed if the colors are not exactly what you want. If this is a major hurdle please reconsider ordering---unhappy club members make me :(
For the prices we are ordering sizes and types of clams listed.
Thanks,
Jim

[MikeP]

Ok since they are out of Electic croceas let me just get:

1 4" Squamosa - 24.95

1 3" Derasa - 21.95


1 3" Hippopus - 8.75

[daffynmark]

Hey Jim:

As long as I don't get two clams that have the same coloring I will be happy. I just don't want two clams that look too much alike.

Cindy

[Sherri]

OK everybody....I have edited the order list...pls check your order and CONFIRM OR MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS. I will post them as soon as I can. FYI: sholzrichter, fuzz, z28pwr, MikeP, Captexas &
daffynmark - yours has been confirmed. Pls make sure this is correct. Prices have also been posted next to your order. These prices are for the clam itself.... Thanks!And if anyone else wants in on this clam order...pls post what you want & it will be added. These are great prices and great quality!

Hope this helps Jim....

Sherri

[Sherri]

BTW: Order list is posted on Page 3 of this thread and the availability list was posted by Jim today (11/10/03) on Page 4 of this thread.
Remember, Jim needs to place this order if interested by Wednesday of this week.

Thanks...

Sherri

[Sherri]

Joshua...edited...thanks

Sherri

[z28pwr]

Josh, if you could pickup for the SA Crowd that would be excellent. Let me know.

Jim, would you like me to paypal you the money, send you a check give Josh the money (if he ends up going up there) or how would you like to handle payment.

[Jimnorris]

Checks are fine. Once I get the total I can let everyone know their exact amount.
These prices do not enclude shipping or MAAST charge.
Thanks,
Jim

[DustinWayman]

Hey Jim/Sherri, I would like to add one 1-2" maxima to the order if possible.

Thanks!
~Dustin Wayman

[Sherri]

Added your order Dustin... :D

Sherri

[phage]

Sherri,
make my order for a 4in. crocea either green or blue
and a 3 in Hippopus

[adaminaustin]

Sherri,
I am going to make my order
1 3" 1ST Grade Maxima ($24.95)
1 3" Derasa ($21.50)

Thanks,

[sholzrichter]

sherri,
Can you make this update on my order?
1 3" Gold/Green Squamosa (other color is ok)($16.95)

Jim,
Do you need the money before ordering? If so, I can go by your work tomorrow lunch hour.

Thanks.

[MikeP]

No changes here. I can drop a check or cash by your house Jim or mail it - either works for me.

[captexas]

Sherri -
Please cancel my 1 clam I wanted to order. I was expecting these to be the electric croceas or ultra maxes. Thanks and sorry for the extra work :-(

Chris

[Sherri]

OK....Updates done on bigreefer...Captexas...phage...Adam...MikeP.

Sherri

[OrionN]

If there are no Ultra Crocea or Maxima, I don't want to order clam any either. Thanks.
I do want to get 3 Flame angels so please put this down for me. I like the smallest Flame angel possible please.
Minh

[JeffCo]

Thanks Jim, but I was really looking for an ultra maxima and electic crocea. I will have to cancel my order as well. Thanks. and I already had a flame angel but he was eating my LPS so I had to give him away, but they are beautiful fish.

[oceancube]

$13.75 for a flame angel?? well if this aint no type of joke can yall pls put me down for one, ill pay asap just let me know how and when!!!! thanks

[Sherri]

Was at Alamo Aquatics today...had a Flame Angel for $49.00 I believe.

Ouch!!

Sherri

[Sherri]

Edited/confirmed/cancelled on Minh...JeffCo...sholzrichter

Added 1 Flame Angel for oceancube...

Still need confirmations/changes on the following:
robertpower3, Matt, Instar, GaryP, Joe, Stephen, whatsareef...

Reminder: If order is to be placed, Jim needs to call it in Wednesday....

Thanks!!
Sherri

[GaryP]

I'll stay with my order Sherri.

Gary

[Sherri]

Confirmed GaryP and whatsareef...Thanks guys....

Sherri

[robertpower3]

Actually sherri I would like 2 flame angels and 2 2 inch maximas.

[Sherri]

Got it robertpower3...Thanks

All I need to hear from now is Matt, Instar, Joe & Stephen! :D

Sherri

[beareef19]

1. 3" maxima - purple or red or combination 1. 3" 1st grade crocea blue green combo Total 2 clams.

[DustinWayman]

Sherri, are the flame angels the only angels available? Are there any pygamy angels available?

Thanks!
~Dustin Wayman

[Instar]

Sherri,
Confirmation and change: Change from 1 Crocea to:
3 Crocea 3 inch all different colors of blues/blue purple. Just not a plain green.
I've seen some real nice 1st grades, so if thats how it comes out, great. I'd like wild patterns and combos.
Could have blue with gold, orange, whatever, as long as its not plain green. Either way, great or not, I'm in for 3 of the
3 inchers. Price I last saw was 15.95 each for that one.

[adaminaustin]

OK Sherri,
At that price I have to jump in on the flame anlgels. So (1x) small flame angel.
Sorry about all the changes, keep up the good work.

[robertpower3]

What exactly is the difference in 1st grade maximas and electric maximas.

[Sherri]

Added Flame Angel Adam... :D

Sherri

[adaminaustin]

Robert,
Maximas have Ultra (Nicest) and 1st grade ratings.
Croceas have Electric (Nicest) and 1st grade ratings.

Ultra maximas and electric croceas are just a little prettier than the 1st grade ones.
The ratings are set by the wholesalers, and everyone has their own opinion. So basically one guys Ultra might be considered 1st grade by a different wholesaler. Or this can work the other way around.

[robertpower3]

Adam,
Thanks for the quick response! :grin:

[Sherri]

Confirming Instar & beareef19....

DustinWayman...From what I understand...there is a special price on Flame Angels only @ $13.75 ea. with a minimum of 6 to be able to place the order...as you can see....the order is well over minimum needed to get that price...

Sherri

[captexas]

Sherri -
Matt went out of town on Saturday for about ten days so he will not be around to confirm his order. It's up to Jim, but he could probably go ahead and order whatever Matt wanted and if Matt changes his mind Jim shouldn't have a problem selling them to someone else. But again, that's Jim's call.

[austinreefer]

Sherri, 1 2-3 inch squamosa for me. Jim knows.

[Sherri]

Ok....Added your orders: alexwolf...Austinreefer.
Adjusted your order: sholzrichter.

That leaves Joe & Stephen to be confirmed.

Sherri

[DeletedAccount]

Sherri,

Could you put me down for one 4" Squamosa.

Misti

oops! That was almost a big oops typo!

[Jimnorris]

OK members if I can get the full order by early am tomorrow I will place it!!!!
Thanks,
Jim
P.S.
If this works out what do you all think about once amonth having a group order? Example maybe next time we can order tangs? This would be a way to get items at a really good price and would mainly put alittle $$$$ into the club!
Jim

[sholzrichter]

It is a great idea. The fish stores around us might disagreed, but I like it very much.

[Joe]

Sorry, I've been busy. Confirmation and change to my order due to sizes: One purple or gold maxima - 3" and one green, blue and/or red crocea - 4"

Hope it's not too late

Thanks, Joe

[OrionN]

Guys and Gals,
There may be shipping mortality. We should add all of these and divide out (cost of ordering) so that Jim or the club will not eat the cost OK. If we order 6 fish for 100 dollars but one died then our cost should be 20.00 per fish not 17. Please don't complain if this is the case OK.
Minh

[Joe]

I think that would be fair for everyone

[captexas]

With the above warning from Mihn on possible losses on the group order, the following needs to be taken into account by all parties involved in this group order and all future group orders.

NOTICE
Unless otherwise noted by MAAST management, group orders are not sponsored by MAAST. They are solely the responsiblity of the person(s) organizing them and anyone joining in on the order. MAAST cannot be held responsible for any losses, damages, or other inconveniences that occur as this is solely an arrangement organized by club members on their own behalf.

[Sherri]

Ok....Added your order Misti and confirmed/changed your order Joe.

That leaves Stephen...?

This is what I count for total orders: (This does not include Matt's (?))

Crocea 1st Grade: 3" (6 ea.) 4" (3 ea.) 5" (1 ea.)
Maxima 1st Grade: 2" (3 ea.) 3" (9 ea.)
Squamosa (color): 3" (3 ea.) 4" (2 ea.)
Derasas (color): 3" (2 ea.)
Hippopus: 3" (2 ea.)

GRAND TOTAL # OF CLAMS!!!! 31 EA.

GRAND TOTAL # OF FLAME ANGELS 12 EA.

Sherri

[Triggerman]

the order will probably come in fine especially the clams, jim knows all about clams and shipping. the only problem i could see is with maybe the flames not on doa, but during the quarantine time. they are experiencing high mortalitiy rates with them in general, not to say these won't be o.k. it helps to know the origin of them or where they're being caught from.

[Tim Marvin]

Soooo, since Jim is Vice Pres were does that leave us? Management is not MAAST, we have just decided to help in decision making for the group. Every person here makes MAAST. That makes this a MAAST order no matter how we look at it. Let us just say that the parties involved in the orders must bear full liability, and not the group as a whole. I do see were you are coming from though. It just sounds like management IS MAAST and everyone else is just here, I don't want to be MAAST I want to be a part of it. Maybe it is just me, but it sounds a little harsh.

[Instar]

I agree to split the mortalities with the following stipulation: the fish buyers should split the mortality cost of the fish, and the clam buyers, the clam problems and each proportionately to the total $$ they spent for either clams or fish. I don't want to buy clams and pay for flame angel troubles. I will be happy to share the expense for the things I bought, proportionately. Example: If one clam dies and the clam buyers can't get credit, then the clam buyers split the cost of that proportionately. If it so happens that I am the one who doesn't get all the clams I bought because its one short now, then with this mortality split, as I understand it, I have agreed to pay for one less than I ordered and the group splits the cost of that dead one. That is ok with me. If half the flames don't look good or die, I'm not as cool about paying for them because I don't want these right now. Does that make sense? Whatever the group decides, either way, I am still a part of this all the way.

If flames are $13 dollars, you can bet they are being caught in masses if they sell a hot item for that price. Just exactly how do you think suppliers can get masses of angels? Ever been diving on a real reef? These have to have high mortalities because I can't see how anyone could dive in there and get a group of these things to swim out of their holes for netting. They have to be using chemicals of some sort unless they are tank rearing the fry. If they are chemical caught and starved during transport with salinity reduce, more drugs for disease proofing, they will have a very high percentage of mortality. These fish don't tolerate copper or formalin very well, amoung others. And they must have the correct diets in QT. If their needs are met, these are very easy to keep (decent water, etc.), providing they are not drugged or over medicated. With the mass quantities of fish being imported, much of the talent has been lost and all fish are getting dumped into copper because the wholesalers just aren't educated or doing a great job with the widely varing differences in demands of these fish. Perhaps Jim's connection is not one of those, but, how do we know?

[OrionN]

Sherri,
Count me in for four Flame angels so that we will order 12 instead of 11. (If there is another person who want it then I just take 3)
If any died, then I will take less.
Sorry about bring this last topic up, but I though that it should be said ahead of time, so that we won't hold anybody responsible. I am sure Jim will bend back ward to make everybody happy even at a loss to himself, but I don't want him to.
So how am I going to pay for this? I love to paypal somebody for the cost of the fish that I order.
Minh

[captexas]

Minh - it was actually a good thing you brought it up, especially as large as the order has become.

This is really for everyone's protection, especially Jim. He is a great guy and has at times given more of himself than he really should. This order is a great benefit to all those involved as doing orders like this are time consuming and can sometimes end up in a loss of money for the one organizing it. He only orders stuff from the best companies so it is unlikely that anything will happen, but it's better for everyone to be aware of and prepared for the chance there are a loss or two.

[Tim Marvin]

Very good point! There is nothing worse than doing an order and having to absorb a loss especially if there is 0 profit. Sometimes people will try to back out after an order has been placed also. Be absolutely sure you want something if you order it, and be ready to pay when it arrives.

[OrionN]

Jim,
If there are a small <3 inches Powder Blue tang and White Face/Powder Brown tang, I would love to get these two fishes in addition to the four Flame angels.
Minh

[alexwolf]

i would like a paypal option as well.......is there a chance for this?

[Sherri]

Minh...changed your order of 3 Flame Angels to 4 ea...

Sherri

[Instar]

Good point Tim. If for some unforseen reason someone does have to back out after the order is placed, I'll take their order and, of course, pay for their order. Unless of course, someone orders 100 angels and that I don't have room for.

[Instar]

How did I know that would happen?!

[Sherri]

Did you want me to add those 99 Angels Joshua??? :skeezy: I'm trigger happy at this point! ;)

Sherri

[Instar]

Hey Tim, I may need your help to set up an angel pond...
I could always add a room and get one of those 8x8 foot tanks forklifted in, right?

[Jimnorris]

OK ORDER IS IN!
Total 31 clams
12 flame angels
and possible two tangs

Note: All animals will be held in my tanks until they pass MY inspection. If they do not pass you will not get them and of course if they do you will.
I do not want any money until you get them!

That is the way it is!

I would like to say thank you for your unexpected support! :D
Jim

[daffynmark]

Jim:

I will drive down the Friday after Thanksgiving, if you will be home, to pick up my order. If you will not be home let me know when would be a convenient time for me to come pick up my order.

Please be sure to let us know if you do not get credit for DOAs or damaged clams. It is not fair for you to place this order, as a favor to the club, and then eat the cost on those DOAs or damaged clams.

Oh, and a great big THANK YOU!

Cindy

[z28pwr]

Jim, I'd like to thank you for taking the time in doing this, you've been a great supporter of this club since you came into the picture. If there are any DOA's in the bunch I think it's only fair that we divide the cost between us if the wholesaler will not cover it. I know these things take alot of time to organize and last thing you need is to shell out money from your own pocket.

Big thumbs up to you even though you don't like Vipers :-D .

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[GaryP]

Jim,

When is delivery expected?

Gary

[alexwolf]

If I remember correctly, he works in a Dodge/ Chrylser service department :lol:

[Jimnorris]

Actually it's Chrysler, Jeep, Hyundai, GMC and Pontiac service. I wish I had Dodge also! There is $$$ in those Dodges!

And also------The order is paid for and should be here Monday! Also Minh I do believe I will have your two tangs!

Jim

[360Reef]

Excellent!! Jim, thanks again for putting in all of the effort to get this order to go through.

-Greg

[Sherri]

Thank you so much for all the hassle! YOU let us know when...

Sherri

[oceancube]

oh wait, i want to cancel my 6 derasa clams and 5 flame angels i ordered.... :shock: , na im kidding, well i want to thank jim for the effort he has put in as well, im sorry your probably like "okay already", just thought i would let you know, and let us know when there ready to pick up, if someone does cancel an clam order i will also be happy to pay for one myself, again thanks alot jim!!!!!

[OrionN]

Jim,
Is the shipment going to be send on Monday, or do you plan to keep them until Monday to make sure that they are OK? I am sure nobody sends livestock on Friday. I asked because it sure would be a lot easier for me to get them this weekend instead of during the week.
Thanks,
Minh

[Tim Marvin]

Instar, I'd be happy to help! an 8x8 saltwater pond......Hmmmmm..........I'll bring Jim also I know he'd want to be in on this set-up.....LOL.....

[Jimnorris]

Minh,
Shipment is Monday and pick up is Monday. These gives me about six days to make sure all animals are doing well before pick up on Saturday the 22nd.
Jim

[OrionN]

Thanks

[kaiser]

Should anybody back out of a flame angel let me know I am looking for one and would be happy to take one.

[OrionN]

Should anybody back out of a flame angel let me know I am looking for one and would be happy to take one.
You can have one of mine. I wanted 3 but ordered 4 because i wanted for us to get 12 instead of 11.
I like to get the smallest three of the 12 Flame Angels, if everybody doesn't mind. I don't want to get more than 1 male in the group
Minh

[kaiser]

Cool,
thanks Minh.

[z28pwr]

After Minh get's his 3 small one's I would like to get a small one aswell so he won't beat up on my Coral Beauty.

Thanks.

[alexwolf]

Pickup isnt this monday right? Is it the 24th?

[adaminaustin]

Alex,
Jim said Sat. the 22nd. :-D

[JT]

Did someone say clams and flame angels? :eek:

- JT

[adaminaustin]

Jim,
Did you get it yet? :grin:
How is it looking? :-D
I just can't wait until the 22nd. Its just like Christmas just a little early.

Thanks for doing the order.

[Jimnorris]

NEWS FLASH

Shipment should arrived late tonight viva Southwest airlines.

Jim :D

[Sherri]

How exciting Jim....what a wonderful experience having all those clams open up before your eyes. Wow...what a sight... :D

[Jimnorris]

Sherri,
It is kinda cool! But it is work also! Making sure they are adjusted well usally takes me about 2 to 3 hours.
Jim

[Sherri]

Oh I thought of that also...if I was close...I'd offer to come and help...I know its' gotta be work. Thank you for all the effort put into this large order. Everyone along with myself knows the hassle it can be and appreciates all the more because of it.

[JT]

It is kinda cool! But it is work also!
*cough* :P

[Jimnorris]

Clams and angels are settling in. Lost one angel :cry: .
I must say this is maybe the BEST group of clams I have seen!!!!!!
Colors and sizes are AWESOME! Thanks JT! Most of the angels ate brine right off the bat! I will confirm this tomorrow I think one of the maxima looks like a black tiger!!!! Right now they are under NO actinics, then tomorrow NO actinics and NO 10,000ks, then thursday 8,800k pcs. Tonight I will shoot some pictures! So far I am very happy!
Jim

[daffynmark]

Sad news on the Angel...

Great news on the clams! Glad to hear the shipment came in a relatively healthy state!

Cindy

[kaiser]

Clams and angels are settling in. Lost one angel

Well there goes my luck again, but I was the last one in so I'll be the first one out.
I am still interested in one.

[OrionN]

Jim,
Thanks,
If you have the time, could you comment on the size of the tangs (if we got two tangs I ordered)
Thanks
Minh

[adaminaustin]

I must say this is maybe the BEST group of clams I have seen!!!!!!
Colors and sizes are AWESOME!
:-D

[Sherri]

If YOU'RE excited Jim...then I really am... :-D - great to know the clams are so far in grest shape. Sorry to hear about the one angel...not bad for that size of an order...

Sherri

[MikeP]

Jim, what time this Saturday can we come by? I have to be at work by noon, wanted to pay you for clams and get them home and acclimated at least an hour before I headed to work.

[matt]

Jim;

If I remember, I ordered one maxima. Is there still one for me in this order?

[Jimnorris]

Pick up time that works for me is saturday the 22nd from 10:00am to 2:00pm.
Jim

[Jimnorris]

Here are some pictures of the clams!
Jim

[Jimnorris]

two

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three

[Jimnorris]

four

[Jimnorris]

four

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five

[Jimnorris]

six

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seven

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eight

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nine

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nine

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ten

[Jimnorris]

1a

[oceancube]

darn i knew i shouldv'e ordered a clam, oh well, if anyone decides they dont want one or just wanna sell me one, let me know, im headed up to austin on saturday so ill give you a call jim, see if the flame is ready, i also read that one died, if so i guess i can take the loss, let me know!!

[Jimnorris]

1b

[Jimnorris]

1c

[Jimnorris]

1d

[Jimnorris]

1e

[Jimnorris]

1f

[Jimnorris]

1g

[Jimnorris]

last but not all and my favorite
P.S.
Chris if these pictures take up to much space then please go ahead and remove them.
Thanks,
Jim

[oceancube]

man your killing me with these pics :shock: !! i think i can deliver some here to san antonio for other reefers, if thats okay with them, but they would have to be picked up the same night(saturday), if you want me to pick up just pm me and i will let you know!!!!thanks again jim:)

[::pete::]

WOW !!!!! wish I was in on this order.

[alexwolf]

well, how do we know which ones we get? Was it ever decided? First come first serve?

[Jimnorris]

They are all GREAT clams! IMO first come first serve is best.
Jim
P.S.
What is even more awesome is watching 11 flame angels all in the same tank that are starting to form a school!!!!!

[alexwolf]

i agree, im in San Antonio, nad its toughto get up there in time.........but i still want good clams!!!!!

[Jimnorris]

Heck,
My wife just call there are some people camping out in the front yard????? :)
Jim

[alexwolf]

is your parts truck coming to Ancira for any reason? :lol2:

[Jimnorris]

alexwolf,
Thats good! :-D
Jim

[whatsareef]

Guess I dont have to camp out since it looks like I am the only one that ordered a 5" Crocea.... :-D

[Triggerman]

hey jim,

looks like SDC came through with some nice clams, i was kind of surprised to see the blk./white tiger. orange blue rim derasa is another good one.

ray

[adaminaustin]

I'll see you in the morning Jim.
I will be the guy in the tent on you lawn. :-D J/K

[TexasState]

Good job with the acclimation Jim! Crocea can get stress easily and gape. There are not gaping crocea in those pictures.

[Jimnorris]

Vinh,
Thanks. I have learn that acclimating them first with actinic lighting for 24 hours works well!
Jim

[JT]

looks like SDC came through with some nice clams
Nothing but the best for the fine folks of South Texas.

---
JT Croteau
Sea Dwelling Creatures

[z28pwr]

Jim, those look awesome. Guess I'll be setting up camp in your front yard aswell ;) .

[kaiser]

Anybody here wants to rent my 5th Wheel camper? It's got central heat and air. I am sure Jim's wife won't mind. :-D

[Jimnorris]

I will have the Starbucks coffee ready at 10:00am Saturday!
Jim

[OrionN]

I am not in on the clams, but as you can see, some are better than other, IMO. I think everybody should meet Saturday at 10:00 AM. The clams should be number. All number get put in the hat and draw for it. Of course Maxima should be separate from Crocea, separate from Squamosa. Who ever did not show up will get the lelf over. That is the farest way.
Minh

[alexwolf]

well what about us who cant make it then? that doesnt sound very fair to me. This should have been adressed before ordering. Just because I have to be somewhere and cant get out of it on Saturday, I should not get a fair chance at a good clam?

[DeletedAccount]

Different kinds and sizes. I don't really care. I think that it is great that Jim is not letting folks go by and put "dibbs" before Saturday! That has got to be difficult! I know how pushy we can all be!

[Jimnorris]

What happens when you make a simple group order? You get over 230 replies and over 4,000 views ;)

I want you all to remember this is the first clam group order. There can always be a second. My idea behind this one is to let everyone who wanted a clam get one of the wonderful creatures at a GREAT price. After we learn (and I counted me in the we) we can really dial into being more detail on our choices. The majority here are trying clams for the first or second time. So what a great way to learn together :D

Because the old wise tale is very very true.


You just can't have one clam ;)

Jim
P.S. All of the clams in this order will make a wonderful addition to your tank!!!!!!!

[Sherri]

Absolutely outstanding....they are georgous! Oh yeah...Jim....look out your window...that's me waving! Don't worry about me tho....I brought food & blankets. :skeezy:

BTW..,1b and 1g are outstanding.

Jim...Sent you a PM.

[matt]

Jim;

Did you order one of the maximas for me? I did request it, but have been out of touch for a week or so. I'll be happy to let others pick; I don't think I can make it on Saturday and I'm sure they're all beautiful. Just let me know if there's one for me, and I'll send some money with someone who's going up there from S.A.

Thanks again for ding this, i know how much time it takes

Matt

[Sherri]

JT....Outstanding job - Many thanks from South Texas. Can tell they are top quality... :D

[beareef19]

I beleive on Pg. 3 Sherri has posted what everyone wanted to order , this should be how the clams are given to the buyers

[z28pwr]

I beleive on Pg. 3 Sherri has posted what everyone wanted to order , this should be how the clams are given to the buyers

It's not that simple since there are multiple variations of the same color so if you order a green maxima there will be 10 green maxima's with diferent variations in color.

[matt]

Okay, I went there, I'm on the list, but "needs confirmation" Soooo....I guess I'd like to ask anyone who's going from San Antonio to bring my money up there and pick me out a nice small maxima if there's one for me.

Thanks, Matt

[Jimnorris]

:D
yes

[SaltyJim]

HAHA!

This order isn't even complete yet, and you're already wanting to start another. Maybe time to start a new thread ;)

Jim

[MikeP]

I went and picked up my rather plain clams last night (Squamosa, derasa and hippopus) and the maximas they sent Jim were stunning - including a black and white tiger maxima.

[phage]

Are the clams ready to be picked up? If so, will you be around later tonight for me to drop by?

[adaminaustin]

Great order Jim!!!!!
Everything was better than I could have ever expected. Both clams look really happy sitting on their little ledge. The angel is still a bit shy, but has already eaten alittle sweetwater zooplankton.

What were you feeding the angles?

JT is one heck of a clam picker outer.

Thanks for all the hard work guys!

[alexwolf]

Hey question, where in the tank do you put em? I have them at the bottom on the sand.....

[Sherri]

Hey....Thanks Alex for picking my clam up for me.....and Jim!! thank you for picking out my Squamosa. I got home late and lights were out, so I'll get a better look at him in the morning.

Really appreciate all the work put into making the order possible Jim... :D

I noticed there are a few that ordered that this is their 1st clam/clams. Maybe someone could mention where or where not to place these Maximas, Derasas & Squamosas in their tanks. (Bed or LR?)

[Jimnorris]

Rule of thumb for the placement of giant clams in the aquarium.

Crocea-----on rocks
Maxima----on rocks
Squamosa-not on rocks
Hippopus---not on rocks
Derasa-----not on rocks

Rule of thumb for lighting requirements for giant clams.

Crocea-----metal halides
Maxima-----metal halides, vhos and pcs (very close to vhos and pcs)
squamosa--metal halides, vhos and pcs
Hippopus---vhos and pcs
derasa------metal halides, vhos and pcs

Please if anyone has any questions please ask!

Jim
P.S. Just took this picture thought it was different and birds eye view.

[OrionN]

This got to be your all star Montipora pic, with a single Acropora. Beautiful colors. I used to have all 6 of these Acropora. Jim, any of thes corals were frags from my tank?
Minh

[Jimnorris]

Minh,
Yes the orange monti cap is and the orange monti digitia.
Jim

[Jimnorris]

I would like to THANK all who joined in this group buy. I hope everything turned out GREAT! Again I had a blast having everyone over.

And I was able to give Misti $100.00 cash donation for the club from everyone!!!!!!

Thanks,
Jim

[kaiser]

Was there a Flame Angel left? If there is I want it.
Kai

[OrionN]

Jim still have three of my angels, but I want them all.
Minh

[daffynmark]

Hi Jim,
I am back in town and need details on picking up my clams. Please let me know when you will be home this weekend and I will make the drive down to pick them up.
Thanks,
Cindy