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    Here are some pics of my haul from LMAR this year:

    JF Foxflame

    Red Hyacinth

    Freebie Tenius from Uchin

    Matt V Psycho Asylum

    Purple Orchid


    I also got some corals from Mike Zimmerman, mainly one I banked with him years ago

    Minh's Tricolor

    Blue Voodoo


    JF Jack O Lantern
    Last edited by Justin; Sun, 13th May 2018 at 04:41 PM.
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    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    And some of my fish
    Black Leopard Wrasse and Obilgate Cardinal



    African Exquisite Wrasse

    "Dennis" our foxface

    "Vlad" our Vampire Kiss Tang


    and some side shots of the tank





    Last edited by Justin; Tue, 8th May 2018 at 10:50 AM.
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    Redundancy is crucial

    I had learned from my buddy Ty Farmer the importance of having a backup to your system. Although, I do not have exactly 100% redundency of all my gear and life support system in my tank. I will say that I am slowly working towards this goal and started by having:


    • spare Jebao pumps, not used in the tank currently
    • Battery Backup for each of my MP40's
    • I have a Gyre 250 that I won on an auction that I have not opened up yet
    • I bought a Jebao DCP 3000 DC pump and plan to get another and have them plumbed in parallel and tied to each other via the apex. When one is shown to decrease in power consumption, the apex will rev the next one up to compensate for the flow. Still working on how to get this down
    • I use both T5 and LED lights for my lighting. The newer models that I have are not connected to the Apex except via an outlet that turns on the power plugs. The lights themselves are wifi and get their programming via Wifi
    • I have 2 heaters in my tank; one in the overflow box and the other in the sump


    Well...my pre-planning proved to be so beneficial when the evening of the MAAST meeting, my tank started crashing. I had no clue what was going on but I noticed that my return was off, my skimmer had overflowed (its programmed to turn off if the return is off) due to the increased water height and overfilled my skimmate container, which in turn flooded my sump basin and triggered the leak detector but DID NOT turn off my return or ATO line. My ATO continued to turn on and my heaters were not coming on. When I checked my Apex Fusion, I discovered that all of my outlets on my EB8 that controlled my main stuff were greyed and not recognized and I had a bunch of new tiles. After determining it was not a bad aquabus cable, I turned my sights on the EB8 power bar or my Apex head unit.

    To make a long story short, I discovered that when my Apex controller unit would lose power, the EB8 would also lose power, expected, but when it gets power again, it instead of following the normal programming, would install itself as a new EB8 and have its own default programming that would be set on. Hence some things were off and others were on as well as any switches or leak detectors that were linked would not work as the outlet was no longer "connected".

    I originally thought it was my controller unit and so I luckily scored on an Apex 2016 head unit that was on sale on BRS but I failed to hook it up due to it being too wide for my equipment cabinet. Once I moved everything over and simulated a power outage, the EB8 did the same thing. Leading me to believe that it is the EB8 that is faulty. I then took my mission critical items off the power supply and plugged them directly into an outlet. This would be my return and heaters. I then decided that I needed an another EB8 or....get myself the EB832 to go with my 2016 apex. Since none of my lfs's carried any in town, I bought one off BRS to earn some points toward the Trident eventually and also a ext power supply for my controller head unit. This power supply will be plugged into a UPS as well as the EB8 that houses my return, skimmer, and a heater. Eventually, I will save some cash to get myself another EB832 to replace my other EB8 and plan to re-distribute my key essential equipment between the various Power blocks on my apex system.
    Last edited by Justin; Fri, 1st Jun 2018 at 11:19 AM.
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    Once I submit my faulty EB8 to Neptune for repair, I will have a backup EB8 and a backup head unit, granted it is a Classic head. I also realized that my WXM was acting up and would lose my MP40's and they would go dark. I cleared the memory of my MP40's, but one occasionally shows as missing but still works. My concern is if the WXM acts up again and my MP40's shut off due to lack of communication to my Apex Controller. This is odd as each of my MP40's has a backup but if they lose communication to the WXM, they power down. To offset this, I'm debating on the 2 solutions:


    • Take my MP40's off the WXM to keep them independent. I would lose my variable profile switching that I created but would have a safety in case my WXM has an issue again
    • I have a single 250 Gyre and currently working on getting another pump. The Gyre I have, has a controller that can control another pump. I might plan to setup a gyre on either side of my tank and synced together with the controller that is independent of my Apex. My only concerns are flow and position in the tank. Due to the sleek design, I might put them on the back wall and at a very low speed to just create a gentle current that still allows for flow around my corals but I can rev up in case of my WXM acting up again


    I also need to create a float sensor for my skimmate cup to shut off my skimmer in the event it overfills my skimmate container.
    Last edited by Justin; Fri, 1st Jun 2018 at 11:20 AM.
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    My controller runs heater and lights. Pumps are on their own.

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    Its good to have them seperate but then again you don't get the customization as I would with the WXM. Still I like the idea of having gyres as backup for flow
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    Thought I'd post some videos I shot today

    https://youtu.be/C0e2g5NKt4U

    https://youtu.be/CHeolMNGvbA

    https://youtu.be/PE9vd-QjDyA

    Left Side


    Center


    Right Side
    Last edited by Justin; Mon, 4th Jun 2018 at 06:09 PM.
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    So a couple of days ago I scored on a Gyre 250 pump on ebay and it arrived yesterday. I had originally won a complete pump and controller on an auction from Oceanlife aquariums. I had mentioned earlier that I wanted to create a backup flow pattern for my tank in the event that my Apex craps out on me again. I had noticed during my recent outage, that both my MP40 controllers were blank because they were "slaved" to the WXM on my controller.

    With that said, I put each of my pumps on either side of my tank facing toward the center of my display and opposing each other. I liked this arrangement as I could basically add a gyre on either side of my tank and also get some good rippling action to break up the oil slick I was starting to see a bit on my water surface. I wanted to imitate the flow pattern advertised by the guys at BRS but to do that for the period of time that they mentioned, the gyres would need to be programmed by an apex. This would defeat the purpose of having the gyres so I stuck with the default programming that allows the pump to alternate back and forth between the two. The only issue is that the pumps do this every 20 seconds and ramp up to a level of about 20%. Anymore and the flow would be way to strong and cause issues with my sps and sand.

    I do have options now. I could do the following:

    Stick with current setup with the Gyre's independent of the Apex and MP 40's programmed by the WXM
    Have the Gyre's programmed by the Apex and use the programming that BRS has for the rolling Gyre across the tank and put the MP40's on their own on possibly reef crest or Lagoon mode

    This new option adds a bit more cost as I would need to get the Apex interface box for each of the boxes, which is hefty penny to say the least. I could certainly use the funds for something else on my tank. I think I'll just play with this current assortment for awhile and gauge my thoughts on changing it later in the year or next year.


    https://youtu.be/QM9G2ndUKiY
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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    If part of the concern is maintaining flow if there is an issue with power, keep using the Gyre controller separate from the Apex and buy an Icecap battery backup. That will allow you to have one of the Gyres continue to work off the battery backup at whatever power level you designate on the Gyre controller when you set that option.

    I have two XF-250's and run them on a custom program in which the first pump has a steady flow at 30% while the second pump pulses random up to 60%. The pattern then alternates every three hours with the second pump on constant and the first on random pulse. I borrowed this from WWC's flow patterns. I then have two 2100 GPH powerheads that do alternating 3 second pulses to create additional random currents and eddies. I did it this way because down the road I can point the directional powerheads wherever I feel I might need additional flow.

    Even with all that I don't get too much sand moving around. It moves a little, but not where it is problematic. I'm surprised you are getting it blown around on 20%.

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    Thanks Man. You commented before I could make another post. I will for sure get myself a battery backup for my gyre's so that I have them on a backup as well. I love the flow that that the Gyre's offer and the water movement at the top of the tank and causing the ripples is really cool to see. I honestly get sand movement on the right side of my tank only. I think this is because of the rock layout as well as the MP40 that is now coupled with the gyre on that side. I'm not too concerned as it helps keep my sand clean with the subtle movement from the flow.

    I still get a little upset knowing that I have each of my MP40's, total of 2, on a battery backup but when the Apex craps out, they go blank. Totally defeats the purpose of having the battery backup mode and why I wanted to have flow that was not connected to my apex. I had originally used 2 Jebaos on a JBWave to offset this but I didn't like the bulky power heads and flow patterns from the Jebao's. The gyre's are a better flow pattern for my tank.

    Still room for thought to see how I want to set my tank up. I really like the idea of the moving gyre that BRS showcased but I also don't feel like spending money on the apex adapters. For now, I'll just look toward getting my hands on a backup for the gyres.
    -Justin

    3 Simple Rules in Life

    1) If you do not GO after what you want, you値l never have it.
    2) If you do not ASK, the answer will always be NO
    3) If you do not step forward, you値l always be in the same place

    100 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...-Breeder-world
    135 Gallon Write up
    http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?...267#post978267

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